Deron Williams would have been fifth-team All-NBA
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Westbrook is an... impressive scorer. But he's a little bitch for one, he's well on his way to being one of the premier chuckers in the league, and he won't pass. Before it's all said and done, I honestly think he'll be traded.
Two first teams, 6 second teams.
That's a relatively arbitrary benchmark designed to make the stat look impressive through exclusivity.
Make it 20 points and 9.5 assists and Kevin Johnson qualifies as well. Make the time window 2 years longer and Kevin Johnson also makes the cut.
The stat manages to exclude Nash by a full 1.2 ppg, etc etc.
I could structure a stat to make Rod Strickland look singular.
Of the Rose/Chris Paul/Westbrook/Rondo/Nash group, who do you believe Deron is presently better than?
Only two, but the reality is that for most of his career there was really only one slot open because Jordan had permanent dibs on the other one. For whatever reason, most years that slot was filled by Magic, Gary Payton, and even (twice!) Penny Hardaway.
Healthy? And with a big that can catch a pass and finish? At the same level or above all of them, in an apples vs. oranges kind of way. No one in the NBA can compete with Rose or Westbrook's speed and explosiveness, but basketball isn't track and field.
And while Deron isn't the best at any singular thing, I think he's in the conversation for everything that isn't rebounding (who cares?) or explosiveness/speed.
vslice02
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Westbrook, Rondo and Nash.
mellow
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Nash, because he's older now.
Paul, because Deron takes it to him when they play.
Rondo, maybe some nights because Deron can shoot.
NAOS
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FWIW, Chris Paul came up with some PIVOTAL rebounds down the stretch of a few games versus the Lakers this year. I don't take that skill for granted at ANY position on the floor, since it seems that during at long playoff run there are at least 3 games decided by clutch rebounds.
(it's this skill that has attracted me to Burks.... dude rebounds really well for his size, and it seems like they are mostly off of good reads)
NAOS
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Rose and Paul are harder to stop, so if the game were on the line I'd take them. But, I'd take Deron over the other guys in virtually every other scenario.
No you're right. You're right. But on the list of skills you want from a PG, rebounds are near the bottom if I have to choose. But absolutely, rebounds are important and you're happy anytime you can increase your team's rebounding percentage.
For example, on any given night, Rondo and his boarding can't do anything to help me forget that he's a pure tard when he's faced with shooting a wide-open shot. Even on a night where he gets a triple-double. When the chips are down in a playoff game, all you have to do to make him disappear is play Lakers-v-Brewer D and watch the guy crumble. And this is with a team loaded with HOFers. But that's just an example.
MDAV28
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I would be very happy if the Thunder did something stupid like that considering they are in our division. Would you play him at the 2? He is easily big enough, and no question he can guard that position as well. Even though his assist ratio is not good, playing him at that point seems to be working.. right? I just don't understand trading away a very, very important piece to what could be considered a championship caliber team right now and for many years to come.
My list is D Rose, CP3, D Will, Rondo, Nash, Westbrook btw.