Did Dante really SAY THAT??? PART #2!!!!

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Core4 - you just basically repeated what I've been saying, almost word for word. Nice.

 

[da ThRONe]

Maybe I didn't watch enough of Exum 5 SL games, but how can some think he's an exceptionally better passer already not having played one real NBA game? I saw nothing from Exum that says he's a better passer yet alone exceptionally better. And to think you can concluded that after 5 SL games really just farther baffles me.

 

[fishonjazz]

Maybe I didn't watch enough of Exum 5 SL games, but how can some think he's an exceptionally better passer already not having played one real NBA game? I saw nothing from Exum that says he's a better passer yet alone exceptionally better. And to think you can concluded that after 5 SL games really just farther baffles me.

In summer league exum and trey were both playing against the same competition and exum appeared to be the more willing, better passer, with better court vision.

Small sample size you say?..... sure, but it's all we have to go off

 

[Litany]

Wasn't sure if this had already been posted. It's from an insider article by David Thorpe talking about the biggest draws of summer league.



DANTE EXUM

The next time someone argues to avoid drafting a player because "he's not ready," remember Exum. He is the newest poster child for the argument against that philosophy. The guy has the look of a star -- do you think Utah cares that he's not yet ready to be a good player even in summer league action?

The fact is, when Exum had the ball in his hands, the gym crackled, even though he rarely did anything good. But the signs were all there. Skilled and long, Exum should be a dynamic guard who can play point guard or shooting guard. He can be an excellent defensive player if coached up well, and in time should at least be able to be a solid perimeter shooter.

But it's his quick burst that has experts excited about his future. He also plays with that aesthetic "coolness" few players possess with the ball in their hands. He'll learn how to play in the next few years, and when that happens, he'll be able to dismantle defenses because of his ability to blow by defenders at the right time. He owns lots of similarities to Kevin Durant. For a point guard, Exum has size (6-foot-5) and quickness advantages, just as Durant possesses as a wing.

 

[da ThRONe]

In summer league exum and trey were both playing against the same competition and exum appeared to be the more willing, better passer, with better court vision.

Small sample size you say?..... sure, but it's all we have to go off

1st it's an opinion. I didn't see anything about Exum's vision or passing that was superior to Burke's. Next how about instead of making statements on insufficient data you wait until you have something much more concrete to judge off of. That seems like the logical thing to do.

 

[tleikheen]

. I didn't see anything about Exum's vision or passing that was superior to Burke's.

Wow clean your glasses .....it jumped out easily to my eyes the difference in vision ,the willingness to be a pass 1st PG,and how Exum could deliver is passes ..... theirs a blindness if a fan can't see the extra dribbles Burke has to do to set up the angle for his passes,that supposedly in this new pass the ball offense that Burke still looks like last year ,pounding the ball and looking for his shot 1st

 

[[size/HUGE] boobs [/size]]

Uhhh. Did you not see Smart throw Dante around like a rag doll? So, you think Dante is going to put on 20 lbs in the next couple of months? Yeah, conditioning is one thing, and even though he will be practicing with the Aussies, doing sets, working on shots and technique and not really working on his conditioning, lets pretend he comes into camp ready to go lungs/legs wise. You still don't play him 30+ mins a night.

He isn't strong enough for it. What happens the first time Dwight swats his shot into the third row while the ball is still in his hands? Dislocated shoulder. Or the first time some backup C, Kosta Koufos, body checks him into the cameras under the hoop?

He is just a kid. He has to mature. There are two things you want to accomplish with Exum this year: Confidence and keep him healthy. Playing him 15 mins a game against bench players, when you have a good starting PG already, does both of those things. You didn't draft Exum for this year or next. You drafted him for years 3, 4, 5, and beyond. There is a reason why Lindsay keeps saying fans need to readjust their expectations. The Jazz will develop Exum similar to Kobe's path. 15 mins his rookie year. 25 his second. All-Star his third.

They will work on him learning the offense, improving his shot, dominating scrubs (I can't wait for all the whining here about how he should be playing 30 mins a night because he dominates scrubs), and getting his body ready for next year.

Also, if you think Exum will be conditioned by Oct, then you are crazy. He has done NOTHING the last six months except get ready to play in the NBA...and he couldn't make it up and down the court five times. He will be just as winded this fall as he was this summer.

He cannot put on 5 pounds working out with Kobe for nine months. How is he to gain 20 pounds over moonlight? These people, they think Dante will get strong before he becomes a man are looped in the head. Dante iz three years away my friends.

 

[tleikheen]

These people, they think Dante will get strong before he becomes a man are looped in the head.

Im happy with Exum getting in game shape 1st,In basketball speed ,quickness and agility ALWAYS trumped muscles.What got him drafted and too Utah is good enough for now.It's obvious his ceiling is higher than everyone else on the Jazz.
I like that he is working from his strength as a basketball player 1st...his ability to get his team mates good looks at the basket.The rest let him do it at his own comfort speed.Somehow I think he'll pick the nuances of NBA basketball faster than most everyone else.
Fanz are doing what they do best...look for warts 1st and blind to what the experts ,management and scouts see in Exum.

 

[The Midnight]

Wow clean your glasses .....it jumped out easily to my eyes the difference in vision ,the willingness to be a pass 1st PG,and how Exum could deliver is passes ..... theirs a blindness if a fan can't see the extra dribbles Burke has to do to set up the angle for his passes,that supposedly in this new pass the ball offense that Burke still looks like last year ,pounding the ball and looking for his shot 1st

Hey bro - next time click "Reply with Quote" when you're replying so we know who you're quoting. If you don't know how to do this let me know.

 

[fishonjazz]

1st it's an opinion. I didn't see anything about Exum's vision or passing that was superior to Burke's. Next how about instead of making statements on insufficient data you wait until you have something much more concrete to judge off of. That seems like the logical thing to do.

I see, so in your opinion we shouldn't discuss exum.

Could you let everyone know exactly when exum has played enough so we can discuss him?
Thanks

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Exum and Burke, Burke and Exum. I don't have a clue who the better passer is. At this point neither of them have shown to be great passers/playmakers. Neither guy can shoot worth a ****. Because Exum is bigger, he has more potential, so I'll take him going forward. Hell, Exum just has more potential, period.

I don't care what happens with Burke unless he can learn to shoot the ball. He's too small, too slow, to poor at getting to the FT line for somebody who can't shoot.

 

[orangello]

Exum and Burke, Burke and Exum. I don't have a clue who the better passer is. At this point neither of them have shown to be great passers/playmakers. Neither guy can shoot worth a ****. Because Exum is bigger, he has more potential, so I'll take him going forward. Hell, Exum just has more potential, period.

I don't care what happens with Burke unless he can learn to shoot the ball. He's too small, too slow, to poor at getting to the FT line for somebody who can't shoot.

Great points throughout this post. Good work SJF.