Did Reagan kill small business?

[♪alt13]

I think unions are a natural and important part of free markets. The problem is that unions have become part of a political power struggle. In some states they are given preferential treatment over the employer and in others they are given subordinate power. I believe that unions and employers should work it out amongst themselves.(this would more often than not be to the benefit of the worker)

 

[green]

Thriller, you obviously didn't read my post. You see Obamacare, and food stamps, and student loans and started regurgitating the talking points.

Go, re-read my posts. I answered all your questions in my first post.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Can't a lot of the blame, especially for teachers, be blamed on the unions? They are supposed to represent the teachers. Yet, the union leaders are getting paid a lot more than 30K, but the teachers aren't.

Again, it's not the right's fault that the union leaders sold out the teachers.

No. That's not the issue with education at all. Anyone know how much teachers union leaders make and how many there actually are? The answer may surprise you. Of course, rush and focnews never expect you to look this sort of thing up.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Thriller, you obviously didn't read my post. You see Obamacare, and food stamps, and student loans and started regurgitating the talking points.

Go, re-read my posts. I answered all your questions in my first post.

I read it and it didn't make any sense. Sorry.

Doctors only earning 40k per year? Lol ummmm no.

 

[♪alt13]

No. That's not the issue with education at all. Anyone know how much teachers union leaders make and how many there actually are? The answer may surprise you. Of course, rush and focnews never expect you to look this sort of thing up.

Oh come on. You really don't think green listens to Rush do you?

 

[green]

No. That's not the issue with education at all. Anyone know how much teachers union leaders make and how many there actually are? The answer may surprise you. Of course, rush and focnews never expect you to look this sort of thing up.

SO SHOW ME. Goodness gracious. Do you realize you are just as bad as Rush and Hannity and whoever? You are the same as them. I am asking to be educated. Educate me. Don't regurgitate what you heard on MSNBC and CNN (see, I can do that too).

Show me how many union leaders are here in Utah and what they are making. Then show me what the teachers are making. And if you are correct, the union leader's salary will be very much in line with the teacher's salary and not 2-5 times more.

 

[8]

Oh come on. You really don't think green listens to Rush do you?

I love Rush! Modern day warrior mean, mean.....

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think unions are a natural and important part of free markets. The problem is that unions have become part of a political power struggle. In some states they are given preferential treatment over the employer and in others they are given subordinate power. I believe that unions and employers should work it out amongst themselves.(this would more often than not be to the benefit of the worker)

Become?

Sense when haven't they been a part of the political struggle?

You do realize that union power and influence is at a 100 year low, right? Like it's been declining for the past 30 years while republicans have acted like union power has surged.

Interesting.... Our economic decline, abandonment of common sense economic policy, and raiding of the middle class for the benefit of the top coincides with the decline of the union... Interesting. I'm sure that is just coincidence, right?

 

[♪alt13]

Become?

Sense when haven't they been a part of the political struggle?

You do realize that union power and influence is at a 100 year low, right? Like it's been declining for the past 30 years while republicans have acted like union power has surged.

Interesting.... Our economic decline, abandonment of common sense economic policy, and raiding of the middle class for the benefit of the top coincides with the decline of the union... Interesting. I'm sure that is just coincidence, right?

Spent 6 years as a proud union worker. Read my post again. I'm pro union. You frame every argument as left and right and all people as either left or right. You are a politicians puppet.

 

[green]

So, I did a little of your work for you. The average teacher in Utah makes between $33-47K a year. In the Alpine School district, Administrators make between $158-288 a year. Really? You think those unions are protecting teachers? Come on now. How many classes do Principals teach? Administrators?

Give me a break. This is an issue that is plaguing both sides, and until we can admit that, we are screwed.

 

[green]

Spent 6 years as a proud union worker. Read my post again. I'm pro union. You frame every argument as left and right and all people as either left or right. You are a politicians puppet.

Ding, ding, ding. Thriller is the PERFECT example of what's wrong with this country. I have always been anti-union. I'm trying to be convinced that I am wrong. And all he does is call me names and throw out talking points. It makes me all pissed off, and get defensive, and now we have two people in opposite corners unwilling to bend. And everybody else gets screwed.

 

[♪alt13]

Ding, ding, ding. Thriller is the PERFECT example of what's wrong with this country. I have always been anti-union. I'm trying to be convinced that I am wrong. And all he does is call me names and throw out talking points. It makes me all pissed off, and get defensive, and now we have two people in opposite corners unwilling to bend. And everybody else gets screwed.

You should change your position from anti-union to union-neutral as far as public policy is concerned.(imo) I am a Pro-union guy(if there is a union at your workplace I would urge you to join) but I am union-neutral when it comes to government policy.