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Did the Jazz Screw Up in Trading for Big Al?

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homeytennis

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Looking back the Jazz gave up plenty of value for Al. Looking backing Boozer was gone along with Kyle Korver. Suddenly a big was needed. Kosta was shipped in the deal along with a boat load of draft picks. I was just eyeballing the stat line of Kenneth Faried and Kosta and came to the revelation they would have been nice pieces on the Jazz. Also if they kept Kostas and not traded for Al perhaps they match for Wesley Matthews. Just sayin....
 
homeytennis said:
Looking back the Jazz gave up plenty of value for Al. Looking backing Boozer was gone along with Kyle Korver. Suddenly a big was needed. Kosta was shipped in the deal along with a boat load of draft picks. I was just eyeballing the stat line of Kenneth Faried and Kosta and came to the revelation they would have been nice pieces on the Jazz. Also if they kept Kostas and not traded for Al perhaps they match for Wesley Matthews. Just sayin....
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Based off of Deron's patience, not, they made the right move. I bet Deron is wishing that he could be playing on this team right now.


I know that it is not realistic because a good chuck of this team is from the Dwill trade.
 
I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
 
GVC said:
I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
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As long as Jefferson is gone by next season I am fine counting this as a teaching experience.
 
If anything, the only error they made on the Jefferson trade is not doing it sooner. I think they held onto Boozer too long. They should have shipped him off as soon as they knew he wasn't part of the future. I wonder if they could have traded Boozer's expiring contract and a pick at midseason for Jefferson. Thereby saving Koufos and one of the picks.
 
LOL - I can not believe I'm reading a thread lamenting the loss of Kosta Koufos. While he was here, he had to be the most ridiculed Jazz player in the history of this board - and that's saying a hella lot.

Everyone blew me off (at first) when I said he'd have a longer career than Fesenko.
 
Yes it was a screw up.

The word was already out on Jeffy and how he was a no defense black hole. Jazz management should have done there homework. There were people on this board who knew what Al was about. Numberica is one of them that comes to mind. Now how the **** does Numberica know more about a player than Jazz management? Its because they aren't as smart as everyone around here makes them out to be. They need to stop getting a ****ing pass on everything. Our management isn't that great. They aren't the worst, but they surely aren't the best.
 
GVC said:
I wasn't much of a Big Al fan at the time, but I still thought it was a worthwhile gamble. Koufos, Montiejunas and another pick (which one?) isn't much to give up for a player who was still young and produced on a ****ty team. Not everything works out in the end.
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I mostly agree with this, but I was livid with the trade at the time because I hated how Al played and I couldn't imagine how that lead-footed, molasses-brained loser was going to be the focal point of an offense predicated on a lot of screening, motion, and ball movement. I certainly agree with the last part after I got a bigger picture of the thing and calmed down. But it didn't pass the taste test when I heard the rumors.
 
It didn't work out but was worth a gamble. Al had never played with a PG near Deron's pedigree and was an established 20/10 player, not to mention wasn't 100% recovered from that ACL injury. Remember Deron calling him up telling him he would make him an all star? It was a good calculated risk.
 
The warning flags were there. He had a DUI, he put up good numbers on team that were horrible and had barely been in the playoffs. The Jazz had lost Boozer to free agency and this deal was a bit of desperation to put some butts in the seats instead of a sound basketball move.
 
Perhaps the mistake was not trading for Al, but could it have been managment choosing to build with Williams and deciding Boozer was going to leave.

Given the circumstances I don't believe the Jazz had much of a choice. Williams was still under contract, Boozer was a FA and the Jazz were going broke. But Sloan was very vocal about his support for Boozer and his desire to keep Boozer on the team.

I am speculating here, Deron is an abbrasive guy, maybe Milsap signed a front loaded toxic offer to get away, maybe Boozer wanted to get away too.
 
I know the reason why Millsap signed that front loaded offer was because that is the offer sheet Portland offered him a few years back, and Utah had to match it. Portland front loaded it trying to get us to overspend or lose Millsap. They did the same thing with Wes Matthews
 
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