Disney tried to use a Disney+ arbitration clause to block a Wrongful Death suit

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'd say that says more about your ability to judge good storytelling.

Says the right wing Trump nut job....

 

[LogGrad98]

Yeah, I still dont think that's a big deal at all. That's not making stories better or worse IMO.

It is when correcting the perceived sins of the franchises informs the stories, which is what is happening.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

It is when correcting the perceived sins of the franchises informs the stories, which is what is happening.

I get what y'all are saying, but I still view Disney's failures as the inability to make new franchises, not what they are doing/not doing to their old IP's.

 

[LogGrad98]

I get what y'all are saying, but I still view Disney's failures as the inability to make new franchises, not what they are doing/not doing to their old IP's.

I see that too. But I also see what they are doing to the existing franchises and I'm not a fan. This is why they are losing viewership and their movies are failing. Putting platform and agenda over the story, so the stories suck, and being lazy enough to just rework old **** to correct the perceived sins of the past instead of, again, putting out a good story.

Just go watch some interviews with the heads of departments for Disney and even the actors. One of the leads of one of the remakes, can't remember which one, said publicly she hated the movie and was excited that Disney wanted to change the story to fit the message she wanted it to have.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

One of the leads of one of the remakes, can't remember which one, said publicly she hated the movie and was excited that Disney wanted to change the story to fit the message she wanted it to have.

It was Rachel Zegler speaking on Snow White. That whole thing has been an irresistible train wreck. Rachel vowed this Snow White wouldn’t be saved by a prince and although it had a prince in it, the decision had not been made yet to keep him in. Instead the story would be about Snow White becoming the best girl boss ever by being “fearless, fair, brave, and true”.

On top of that, Peter Dicklage declared the idea of having a group of dwarves who mined gems was racist so the showrunners changed the dwarves into an inclusive group of freedom fighters who have magical powers.

Backlash and immense amounts of ridicule ensued. Disney backtracked. Rachel Zegler was forbidden from saying anything about the movie and CGI teams were brought in to erase the diverse freedom fighters. Finally a trailer dropped, showing a story much closer to the original, but the well was already poisoned. The internet laughed at the idea of magic mirror picking goblin Rachel Zegler over the stunning Gal Gadot.

This apparently hurt Rachel Zegler’s feelings and so she took to Twitter to enlist Jew haters to attack Gal Gadot.


View: https://x.com/rachelzegler/status/1823146134769893534

 

[Sardines]

Oh, and the dish served to the woman with allergies, the one who picked this restaurant because they state boldly that they take allergies seriously, who then stressed their allergies and verified that her dish would be safe, was not cross contaminated with allergens, they were put in the dish and not just a little by accident. There were zero ****s given about her allergy concerns. They killed her. Someone should be charged criminally IMHO.

 

[LogGrad98]

Oh, and the dish served to the woman with allergies, the one who picked this restaurant because they state boldly that they take allergies seriously, who then stressed their allergies and verified that her dish would be safe, was not cross contaminated with allergens, they were put in the dish and not just a little by accident. There were zero ****s given about her allergy concerns. They killed her. Someone should be charged criminally IMHO.

iawtp

 

[Safetydan]

I'm with Saint Cy on this one. You guys I have trouble with the idea that adding diversity to art is a problem in and of itself. It's the corporate mandates that are the underlying issue. Corporate mandated changes to the creative voice are, most of the time, going to result in a ******** product.

I mean what's the difference between something like Hamilton and recent Disney projects just in terms of the level of SJWness? Not much. As artists themselves become more diverse, the stories they tell natually are going to follow. The specific problem with big companies like Disney and others are big exec types going "oh those plebs loved those black dudes in Hamilton, lets get some of that for ourselves." They cynically add things to a story because they're marketing freaks who refuse to understand what makes a success, successful. But, they've been doing this kind of **** for decades. 20 years ago it could have been "we need more boobs, car chases and explosions" instead of todays "we need to turn up the gay".

I don't know if I made my point well.

Edit: **** changed to boobs. I didn't know **** was banned lmao

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I don't know if I made my point well.

You didn't make it well. In fact you kind of shot your own argument in the face.

SJW isn't a synonym for diverse. Most SJWs are white. It is the 'W' part of SJW that makes SJWs so annoying. The corporate mandates you say are ruining the art, that is the 'W'. It isn't marketing types who are pushing the SJ envelope which is why the end product is falling flat.

If you think there should be fewer SJ mandates being handed down by corporate leadership at Disney, then I think most of us are on the same page. I do find it humorous that you think SJWs of 20 years ago wanted more boobs in film.

 

[Safetydan]

You didn't make it well. In fact you kind of shot your own argument in the face.

SJW isn't a synonym for diverse. Most SJWs are white. It is the 'W' part of SJW that makes SJWs so annoying. The corporate mandates you say are ruining the art, that is the 'W'. It isn't marketing types who are pushing the SJ envelope which is why the end product is falling flat.

If you think there should be fewer SJ mandates being handed down by corporate leadership at Disney, then I think most of us are on the same page. I do find it humorous that you think SJWs of 20 years ago wanted more boobs in film.

I'm saying the same execs that are now "SJWs" were the same guys demanding more boobs 20 years ago. It's the same type of person, trying to jay-walk their way to success. They have no investment if the mandate is more diversity or not, it's just what they think audiences want, derived from some BS focus group testing and their own unearned confidence.

It's not Diversity --> Bad

It's Corporate hands in the creative process --> Bad

It's immaterial what the content of the mandates happen to be, diversity, boobs it's all inorganic and cynical, and hurts the final piece.

 

[Sardines]

I'm saying the same execs that are now "SJWs" were the same guys demanding more boobs 20 years ago. It's the same type of person, trying to jay-walk their way to success. They have no investment if the mandate is more diversity or not, it's just what they think audiences want, derived from some BS focus group testing and their own unearned confidence.

It's not Diversity --> Bad

It's Corporate hands in the creative process --> Bad

It's immaterial what the content of the mandates happen to be, diversity, boobs it's all inorganic and cynical, and hurts the final piece.

I'm a child of the 80s (born in the late 70s) and if a movie had an R rating they were going to get their money's worth and that meant boobies. Comedy? Boobies! Romantic comedy? Sex scene with boobies! Action? Boobies! Horror? Boobie jump scares!

 

[Rubashov]

I'm a child of the 80s (born in the late 70s) and if a movie had an R rating they were going to get their money's worth and that meant boobies. Comedy? Boobies! Romantic comedy? Sex scene with boobies! Action? Boobies! Horror? Boobie jump scares!

Ahhh the good old days....