Guys leaving this league without ever getting the chance with starters or the bench all the time. Not unusual. PJ Tucker went to Europe after averaging five minutes per game with Toronto in his rookie year. Maybe one day Brantley would do the same and come back to prove Quin wrong. But in most case scenarios they just ain't good enough.
In the case of Karl Malone, child rape.
And in the case of Stockton?
Kinda exactly what you said tbh. He said DL got on the wrong side of Donovan... so that isn't what you said. Basically that Ryan is listening to Wade and while he's an owner he got kind of a sweetheart deal on the purchase so Ryan also wanted him as an advisor. I don't think he said what you have implied but I think you can get the sense that something like that happened... more voices in the room... not all of them yes men now.
Like Irsan and Shaq? Shaq had some garbage time, and he didn't look great, but I don't know why we never tried Irsan in a rotation.
You are correct then. Stockton just has idiosyncratic views on covid.
I just disagree. Even coaches make mistakes. Sloan was about to cut Byron Russell before an injury happened and he put him into a game. Russell did some things Sloan liked and we all know what happened. He had a pretty good career and was a big part of our championship runs. Watching Brantley I think he could gives at least what Niang gives us and more. Morgan had moments last year and then nothing. I forgot he was on the team. If none of these guys can play than that falls on the organization because you drafted them or signed them.
I tend to agree then why not admit you were wrong and bring in some guys who can play in the NBA. I still it is unfair to get rid of Udoka, Hughes. I would keep Forrest and hire him a shooting coach. I think he brings some NBA skills. He has gotten to the rim and his defense is good. I wish they had given some of Niang minutes to Morgan or Brantley to see if they could produce more. But I am fine letting the walk. I really wish the Jazz never re-signed Favors. He is in the way of seeing Udoka play.
I agree. In my ideal world, only Doke and Forrest come back from the deep bench. Oni, Brantley, Morgan, Thomas all gone. Ilyasova moves on. Niang comes back, but for no more than 2.5 mil per season. We then re-fill the bench with vets that can play and a new young guy or two to see if we can get a “hit” somewhere. Even if we strike out with vets, it’d be impossible to do any worse than we get from our current deep bench (which is nothing) by just adding an entirely new batch of G-league developmental guys.
In 87 minutes in the clippers series Niang and Oni combined for 5 pts on 11.7% shooting, 10 rebounds, 5 assists... they also added 17 fouls and 5 turnovers.
Eventually I'm going to get around to making my thread on the state of the Jazz, but Quin gets a lot of blame pie. A lot. Just slightly less than DL.
