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DL 'starting' to look like a genius ....

Thee jazz fan said:
It wasn't DL's choice for a player option. That was Jordan and the Hornets choice jazz had no choice as he was a RFA.
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That’s what I mean we should have signed him to a four year max (similar to what Gobert got). That would have prevented him from signing the offer sheet with Charlotte.
Plus we would have been able to extend his contract. I think (could be wrong). Which would have put the Jazz in a position of power.

Btw I am often unreasonable as a fan. I use this message board for venting more than anything. It goes without saying that Dennis And Quinn do a better job than I ever would. But that doesn’t mean they are perfect. They have made mistakes and both need to get better in certain areas. Overall they do a good job
 
I think DL's record for drafting is one of the best in the league, and hiring QS was a great move, but I'm not sold on him as an elite GM. I think his ability to acquire players through Free Agency and trades has been severely lacking. I get that he's traded for draft picks, but his biggest trade for an existing player was a one-year rental of George Hill. The other trades he's made have been to essentially take back players that other teams didn't want for almost nothing. The other aspect that he really hasn't done much in is Free Agency.

I'm not saying that I want the guy fired, but for us to win a championship, he's going to have to figure out other ways to get impact players other than just through the draft.
 
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I think DL's record for drafting is one of the best in the league, and hiring QS was a great move, but I'm not sold on him as an elite GM. I think his ability to acquire players through Free Agency and trades has been severely lacking. I get that he's traded for draft picks, but his biggest trade for an existing player was a one-year rental of George Hill. The other trades he's made have been to essentially take back players that other teams didn't want for almost nothing. The other aspect that he really hasn't done much in is Free Agency.

I'm not saying that I want the guy fired, but for us to win a championship, he's going to have to figure out other ways to get impact players other than just through the draft.
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I believe he’s elite but you are absolutely right about trades. He has never really traded any players, just very fringe guys (sans a forced Kanter trade). It’s why I’m not holding my breath on the trade deadline.
 
Good things:

Gobert
Mitchell
Lyles
Hood

Bad things:
Burke
Letting Millsap walk for nothing
Trading for Hill with no extension when he could have had Teague
Not firing Corbin sooner
Not tanking harder the Exum year
Waiting to long to upgrade the team around Hayward
Trading for Rubio

Borderline inexcusable/maybe should have been fired for:
Knowing the salary cap was about to jump, knowing that a max deal would become equivalent to a mid level player deal and then not signing Hayward to a max deal.

This could EASILY be our team:

Teague/Exum
Mitchell/Hood
Hayward
Millsap
Gobert

Gobert and Mitchell were amazing picks.

Losing Hayward and Millsap were equally as damaging.

If not for drafting Mitchell, DL would look like a terrible GM right now. Drafting Mitchell has saved him for the time being.

To call him a genius? Don’t be silly. He’s done some really good things and some outright, absolute dumb things.
 
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Dennis Lindsey also helped build possibly the greatest NBA team ever.

So, as Utah’s GM he’s very “meh” with a shot to be remembered better due to Mitchell.

As GS’s GM, he is elite.
 
Utesnjazz said:
That’s what I mean we should have signed him to a four year max (similar to what Gobert got). That would have prevented him from signing the offer sheet with Charlotte.
Plus we would have been able to extend his contract. I think (could be wrong). Which would have put the Jazz in a position of power.

Btw I am often unreasonable as a fan. I use this message board for venting more than anything. It goes without saying that Dennis And Quinn do a better job than I ever would. But that doesn’t mean they are perfect. They have made mistakes and both need to get better in certain areas. Overall they do a good job
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They tried to extend Hayward. He refused an extension. Hayward wanted to see what he'd get in free agency, thinking he'd get more. So not DL's fault


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I like Quin as an X's and O's guy. Kinda wonder how he is at developing relationships. Seems like an all business guy, seems like he'd be a cold personality.
 
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Teague also left the team that traded for him and signed somewhere else. Hill was a better fit and things didnt work out trading for Teague could have and likely would have resulted in him signing else where as well. We where waiting on Hayward and would not have signed Teague until after that fiasco and Teague would have signed with Minny still. Its not like we could not have tried to sign Teague this last off season.

DL very much knew the cap was going up. No other team seemed as aware of the cap situation as Jazz. They were very well prepared for all of the changes and made our roster flexible and still keep it flexible in case there is a chance to make a deal. That is why they matched the Hayward contract. They offered Hayward a fair contract. Hayward bet on himself and found a max deal. It happens all the time. Frankly I am glad we dont have Hayward this year because we might not have aggressively moved up to get Mitchell if we had Hayward still. He still would have lied to the Jazz over and over again and still would leave after this season.

The problem with your lineup is that we would still need a stretch 4 since Millsap does not fill that role, nor does he fit in with the timeline at all of Mitchell and Gobert.

Frankly no team has dealt with the kind of injuries Jazz have, its lucky we had success at all last year with injuries all year and losing Gobert in the playoffs. There is no way to predict those injuries and prepare for that. Jazz should have made the playoffs for multiple years with Hayward but injuries held us way back. We should have been a 60 win team last year and that would have gone a long way in going further in the playoffs. We also might have pushed GS a little harder if we had a healthy Favors, Gobert and Hood but we didnt. I dont know what Hayward would have done but he might have stayed had we had a lot more success.

But life goes on we have one of the best young players in the NBA that we can build around. Mitchell is a bigger star than anyone the Jazz have had since S&M. Our future is bright with that kind of player.
 
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