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Nba players want guaranteed contracts... when they get hurt they still get paid. If you sign a deal you should play it out. If you come to a crossroads both team and player should work it out.

Rich Paul worked with the Lakers yo attempt to strong arm a franchise into making a deal that may or may not be in their best interest. AD went along... it wasn’t right but it’s not deplorable.

I kinda laugh when people talk and compare it to real life workers... there’s contracts involved and a bujillion dollars... so it’s different.
 
The nba does need to protect smaller markets a bit. In a salary cap sport you can’t have the 3-4 markets drain the talent from the other franchise feeder systems.

I’m not sure what you do. If they removed Max salaries it might help but would turn into stars making even more and middling players less.

Some sort of franchise tag system that requires teams to get draft comp if you sign their guys would be good... restricted FA kinda already works that way.
 
There are problems on the horizon. Sports, as a whole, are going to shrink in importance as the United States becomes less culturally unified. There will be a point where a large section of people would prefer to watch people play Fortnite than watch a basketball game. I think we have reached the absolute high point on what these television contracts are going to pay, especially if the focus and talent gravitates to three or four teams. The NBA and NFL are likely in a bubble.

You see articles where people think that revenue growth will continue on a exponential curve. It will not. It can not. I think that the NBA figures that making the league about personalities rather than teams will help forestall that inevitability. That there will always be a Michael Jordan who will transcend basketball. They will even change or overlook the rules to make sure that happens (James Harden. . .cough, cough. . .) or do things like put Klay in over Gobert into the all-star game. Ultimately what you start to do is alienate the people that live and breathe basketball chasing new, less-informed bandwagon fans. You are assuming that the true fan base will always be OK with that, you will be wrong. Orlando basketball fans, who were always pretty good, will stop coming and stop bringing their kids, and you will only get a full arena when Lebron James plays. Nobody is going to pay to televise those games either. That is what happens when you have one Harlem Globetrotters and 29 Washington Generals.

The biggest canary in the coal mine here is the public becoming resistant to building new stadium for these teams. If I owned a professional team and wasn't really, really invested in that team, I'd sell right now at what could very well be peak valuation. It looks like plenty of owners are doing that.
 
oneye said:
This could happen. If you don’t like what the NBA brings to the table, or the contract requirements they have, start your own league/business, but the NBA is the NBA and it isn’t owned by the players, they are employees of the league.
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The barriers to entry would be enormous. Nba teams would still have the arena and tv deals and other infrastructure that make it work. Someone would have to invest a **** ton of money and then convince enough dudes that walking away from their guaranteed contracts and millions is worth it to “take control”. You can take control but you may end up with 100% of nothing.

People come to see the players for sure... but the nba infrastructure and capital and everything they’ve built allows that transaction to be really profitable.
 
framer said:
There are problems on the horizon. Sports, as a whole, are going to shrink in importance as the United States becomes less culturally unified. There will be a point where a large section of people would prefer to watch people play Fortnite than watch a basketball game. I think we have reached the absolute high point on what these television contracts are going to pay, especially if the focus and talent gravitates to three or four teams. The NBA and NFL are likely in a bubble.

You see articles where people think that revenue growth will continue on a exponential curve. It will not. It can not. I think that the NBA figures that making the league about personalities rather than teams will help forestall that inevitability. That there will always be a Michael Jordan who will transcend basketball. They will even change or overlook the rules to make sure that happens (James Harden. . .cough, cough. . .) or do things like put Klay in over Gobert into the all-star game. Ultimately what you start to do is alienate the people that live and breathe basketball chasing new, less-informed bandwagon fans. You are assuming that the true fan base will always be OK with that, you will be wrong. Orlando basketball fans, who were always pretty good, will stop coming and stop bringing their kids, and you will only get a full arena when Lebron James plays. Nobody is going to pay to televise those games either. That is what happens when you have one Harlem Globetrotters and 29 Washington Generals.

The biggest canary in the coal mine here is the public becoming resistant to building new stadium for these teams. If I owned a professional team and wasn't really, really invested in that team, I'd sell right now at what could very well be peak valuation. It looks like plenty of owners are doing that.
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There is some truth here... I think the ad and tv dollars shrink unless the gambling and fantasy side grows... which it could. I think it will dip potentially but be more of a flat line than a bubble bursting.
 
idestroyedthetoilet said:
Dumb post.
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Except, that is exactly the way it played out. I don't think people were knocking us over with offers for Haywood. They figured they would get him in free agency or get someone else. It wasn't worth losing assets over for that extra year.

Exactly how we felt about Niko, I assume.
 
infection said:
Yes, he can, and he went public. Maybe you could request your university sends you to another university, then go public about how you don’t want to be there and have it be in the university press.

You are obviously free to do that, and nothing in your contract is stopping you. Keep us posted.

Oh, and be sure and get us some JazzAvenues like quotes from the comments sections where everyone expresses their sympathy for you.
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Since I'm employed at-will, there is no contract for me to be stopped by. If I feel WashU has not lived up to their promises to me, I will leave. I'm not nearly important enough for the press to report on me.

However, I'm sure you will say there is little comparison between my career and Davis's, which makes your whole post rather foolish.
 
framer said:
There are problems on the horizon. Sports, as a whole, are going to shrink in importance as the United States becomes less culturally unified. There will be a point where a large section of people would prefer to watch people play Fortnite than watch a basketball game. I think we have reached the absolute high point on what these television contracts are going to pay, especially if the focus and talent gravitates to three or four teams. The NBA and NFL are likely in a bubble.

You see articles where people think that revenue growth will continue on a exponential curve. It will not. It can not. I think that the NBA figures that making the league about personalities rather than teams will help forestall that inevitability. That there will always be a Michael Jordan who will transcend basketball. They will even change or overlook the rules to make sure that happens (James Harden. . .cough, cough. . .) or do things like put Klay in over Gobert into the all-star game. Ultimately what you start to do is alienate the people that live and breathe basketball chasing new, less-informed bandwagon fans. You are assuming that the true fan base will always be OK with that, you will be wrong. Orlando basketball fans, who were always pretty good, will stop coming and stop bringing their kids, and you will only get a full arena when Lebron James plays. Nobody is going to pay to televise those games either. That is what happens when you have one Harlem Globetrotters and 29 Washington Generals.

The biggest canary in the coal mine here is the public becoming resistant to building new stadium for these teams. If I owned a professional team and wasn't really, really invested in that team, I'd sell right now at what could very well be peak valuation. It looks like plenty of owners are doing that.
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This is well said. At some point this type of stuff will just make most fans say, what’s the point in spending money, and supporting a player/league when you have absolutely no chance at keeping your star or winning a championship. It largely feels like that already. You can’t simply disregard fans of 25/30 teams as players and the NBA and expect that those fans will always just blindly be there. Quite honestly, and you can call me moron, bandwagon, whatever you want, if we lose Rudy, and then lose Donovan, I won’t really watch the NBA anymore. I have other interests and hobbies to fill my time, and spending my money will never be a problem lol. It’d be nice to cancel DirecTv that costs $90 a month also that I basically keep for Jazz games. The NBA is getting much less appealing to me as a fan of a team. If all you’re a fan of is one player it’s fine, but as a fan of a team the NBA is getting more and more difficult to watch.
 
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