do NOT bring back George Hill

[LoPo]

Saying anything right now on this is borderline stupid. Yes, he sat so much more than I thought he should during the season. But he was brought in here for the next 4 games and hopefully more.

If he performs well, we will find out what he's worth. If he doesn't, we will know that too. He will earn whatever salary he gets very, very soon.

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[fishonjazz]

Excactly what I was saying. The jazz tried to sign him a little cheaper since a player can get more money in free agency


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Oh I see. It sounded like you were saying that the jazz tried to low ball hill like they did hayward. But they offered hill the maximum they were allowed to.

 

[candrew]

Last night there were 3 kids in the stands with a "Don't leave George and Joe" sign. Both Ingles and Hill went up to them after the game and held the sign.

Thought that was a nice moment.

 

[mdalby]

Last night there were 3 kids in the stands with a "Don't leave George and Joe" sign. Both Ingles and Hill went up to them after the game and held the sign.

Thought that was a nice moment.

I think Ingles stays and I think Hill follows the money.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

Time will tell.


George Hill is good enough to be the PG on a championship team if all the other pieces are there.

Sorry but I don't see that., I could see him as a 6th man on a chip team but not a starter.imo

 

[Deleted member 5000]

Whatever the jazz offered, up it a little bit to make him feel like holding out was worth it, but really having gobert on our roster is such a huge asset players should be begging to play with us. Hill is a nice fit, maybe a little delicate but whose perfect

 

[SCS]

I think we need to start at 4/80. The problem is another team, the Nets I've heard recently as one example, may offer him too much. I could see them offering 4 years, 110M and I don't think we should go that high.

I would do 2/40 with maybe a Team Option for a third year. If we had a plan in place to move one or two other contracts to keep flexibility. No way I'm locking the team into 4 years. He'd be 35 and if injuries persist that contract would become a disaster. By the time we get out of it Hayward would be 31 and Gobert would be 28. We would have lost valuable time.

 

[framer]

I think we need to start at 4/80. The problem is another team, the Nets I've heard recently as one example, may offer him too much. I could see them offering 4 years, 110M and I don't think we should go that high.

Nets would have to be idiots to begin their rebuild by overpaying Hill. Did they not learn anything? If they are going to splurge, they will do it with young players. Max a few young guys that are RFA's on capped out teams. Fortunately, I think Hood has played his way out of that eventuality. I think our competition for Hill begins and ends with San Antonio, to be honest. . .

 

[Cappy_Smurf]

Hill will be back next year. Hide and watch.

Also, every franchise hits a point where it is worth it to overpay for somebody and/or gamble on a guy who will be overpaid by the end of his deal. Utah is at that point for sure. The thing a lot of people miss is that Utah can't just save that 80-100 million and spend it on someone else. They won't have room under the cap to sign somebody else's FA, where they have bird rights on Hill and can go over the cap to sign him.

I personally think he will get a 4 year deal around 80-90 million, and yes, Utah should give it to him. His being injured this year may very well end up a blessing, if we are able to retain him.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hill will be back next year. Hide and watch.

Also, every franchise hits a point where it is worth it to overpay for somebody and/or gamble on a guy who will be overpaid by the end of his deal. Utah is at that point for sure. The thing a lot of people miss is that Utah can't just save that 80-100 million and spend it on someone else. They won't have room under the cap to sign somebody else's FA, where they have bird rights on Hill and can go over the cap to sign him.

I personally think he will get a 4 year deal around 80-90 million, and yes, Utah should give it to him. His being injured this year may very well end up a blessing, if we are able to retain him.

I'm down with that deal.
Not down with 4 years 130 million though.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Hill will be back next year. Hide and watch.

Also, every franchise hits a point where it is worth it to overpay for somebody and/or gamble on a guy who will be overpaid by the end of his deal. Utah is at that point for sure. The thing a lot of people miss is that Utah can't just save that 80-100 million and spend it on someone else. They won't have room under the cap to sign somebody else's FA, where they have bird rights on Hill and can go over the cap to sign him.

I personally think he will get a 4 year deal around 80-90 million, and yes, Utah should give it to him. His being injured this year may very well end up a blessing, if we are able to retain him.

That is where I am... I thought he might get a bigger offer but I'm kind of doubting it now... I think he got bad advice at the deadline. Should have re-signed then.

 

[Harambe]

Are the Jazz purposefully not bringing back George Hill so they can afford raises to other players(Ingles man... Ingles) and bring back Deron Williams?

2 months ago at the trade deadline:

The Jazz were one, offering Williams a homecoming to the place he played his first five-and-a-half seasons. There was mild surprise on that front — Utah traded Williams in 2011 because of a poor attitude and the belief that he did not want to be in Utah long-term.
2 months ago – via Sporting News

Though the split between the Jazz and Williams was sore and highly publicized, MacMahon said Williams still loves Utah, and would prefer to end his playing career in Salt Lake City as a member of the Jazz.

Perhaps Deron Williams could be a decent summer fallback plan for the Jazz if things don’t work out with Hill. Williams is obviously no longer the star he was during his first stint with the Jazz, which certainly didn’t end well, but he won’t expect to be paid like one either. Sources told ESPN that Williams is definitely intrigued by the possibility of finishing his career in Utah, where he still maintains a home.

It certainly feels like the Jazz are the "Call your bluff" team, forcing Camp Hill to find huge money elsewhere.