Basketball_Romantic23
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Agreed.
Do we have a future superstar on the team?
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Agreed.
Basketball_Romantic23
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I find it amusing how capricious Jazzfanz are. Kanter is now seen as the player most likely to be a superstar, which i find really interesting. Have some of us already forgotten how freakishly amazing Favors was in the playoffs. His plus minus was ridiculous against the spurs, especially when you compare it to Jefferson and Millsap's. Don't get me wrong, i am falling in love with Kanter as our franchise C or PF, but guys, lets not forget how terrific Favors was. He impacted the playoffs in a way that was cool to watch. He was our best player in the playoffs, and had he not been on the team, we would have lost those games by a lot more. His defense was fabulous. Watch this video if you don't agree.
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?12589-In-defense-of-Favors
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?12589-In-defense-of-Favors
Numbers aren't everything. I would also say hayward is a better shooter than LeBron just LeBron has dramatically improved his decision making and shot selection. Thus his percentages have risen. LeBron doesn't need to be Kyle korver because he is a freak. Hayward will get fewer open perimeter shots because people can afford to crowd him and close out to him because he is way way way way less likely to go by them to the hole for a dunk or a pass for an easy basket. So it depends what you mean by better shooter. If they had multiple 3 point shootouts against each other I'm quite certain Hayward would win the majority of the time.
MVP
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did I posted anything insulting to you to deserve "dumbass" comment? The only dumbass here is you trying to explain Haywards worse 3pt FG% on shooting slump in the start of the season. There is a reason one player is better shooter then the other and shooting slumps or being streaky shooter does not make Hayward better shooter then LBJ. Get of mushrooms. seriously. You were the one last season predicting that Hayward will average +20pts based on last few games in regular season. How did that prediction worked for you smartass? Pathetic homer.
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Guys, we didn't resign the only superstar we ever even had on our team. Well, at least the Wolves capitalized on our massive blunder.
PS: AKMVP making fun of people's past predictions? Now that's rich.
MVP
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if you look at shot distribution on 82games.com LBJ attempted 69% jumpers, Hayward 72% - not such a big difference, yet LBJ's effective jumper FG% was .475 to .456 compared to Hayward. Total FG% difference is even greater at almost 9% difference. Whatever you guys want to base your love for Hayward has no substance, LBJ improved his jumpshooting greatly and is better shooter then Hayward now. If you compare rookie numbers then of course Hayward had better rookie season and he may still improve and surpass LBJ at some point, but based on last season there is no question who was better shooter.
MVP
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why not? At least I was realistic when it comes to Hayward and did not predict ridiculous numbers like him.
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AK was not superstar. All-star but not superstar. He is perfect 3d option to two superstars.
Kanter has the ability to be a first option on offense, either at PF or C. He's already drawing double teams. He needs to stay light, keep working on this jumper, and be able to take a few dribbles, but he already looks like a high-percentage scorer. Basically a tougher, faster Kevin Love or Al Horford.
I definitely was shocked to see how bad he was in the early preseason. Maybe he knew that it was just the preseason. He got better as it went on, and I agree with you that he was our best all around player.
https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?12367-Jazz-s-Best-Playoff-Performer&highlight=favors+playoffs
Also, take a look at some of his moves here. He should have either that right block baseline jumper all day, or, if he can get deeper post position, a right block baseline hook. Then he could have the move to the center from the right block with his left hand or a right baseline drive and finish at the rim or with a reverse layup. He needs to fight for deep position though! It seems awesome that Tinsley had his choice of either Kanter or Favors on the left and right block respectively. Then the other one had great rebounding position.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8mj3FmT8O4&feature=youtu.be&a
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Why not? Maybe because your 'predictions' are also always perennially incorrect? See January 2012 prediction thread, or even the 2011-2012 season thread, let alone all of your talk on how KOC blew it again by drafting 'busts' in the first round.
FWIW at this stage of the game, I agree with you when you say that Lebron is the better shooter. Likewise, like you said, he also as the potential to exceed him, especially when you consider where they both started out.
Lastly, AK played rather poorly as 3rd fiddle to Deron and Boozer, did he not? Or are we gonna argue that he was 4th or 5th option on the Jazz?