Does Kanter show Jazz made mistake in these playoffs ......

[fishonjazz]

Oh yeah, I was just thinking we needed yet another one of these topics.

If we all neg him enough and get him into the red then he wont be able to start threads like this. Im thinking as long as the thunder continue in the playoffs (at least a few weeks) there will be threads like this one from the op.
Neg train!

 

[Stoked]

Inmates don't run the asylum but sometimes they sabotage themselves and their FO. It happens. In Kanters case I think kicking the can down the road only makes it worth.

I'm not mad that Kanter landed in a sweet spot.

Jazz are better without him.
I like the added tension to Jazz/Thunder games.

 

[karl malone]

There's nothing Kanter can do to show that the Jazz made a mistake because they didn't.

-He demanded a trade
-He wanted a max contract
-Favors & Gobert are a better fit & provide better defense

There's a reason he's only playing 21 MPG. He's a great offensive player but nowhere near worth a max contract. OKC is in a better position to utilize his strength & hide his weaknesses (hence the 21 MPG) than Utah was.

It's unfortunate how little we got out of the #3 pick & you can argue that drafting him in the first place was a mistake or that he should've been moved sooner as his game never seemed to mesh with Favors'. But trading him & not giving him the max is unarguable. He didn't want to be here & a better option emerged. Kanter leading OKC to a title (not that he will) won't change the fact that Utah made the right decision.

 

[GVC]

Hell.. Since we basically got nothing for him anyway, we could've kept him and not played him a single minute, told him to stay home. ****ed up his market value and image. By the time he hit free agency he'd be making comparative scraps and likely not with a high-end team like the thunder.

1. Yeah, that would've ingratiated the Jazz to other teams and agents. Brilliant idea.

2. As PGAB said, 'AT THAT POINT IN TIME'... It's incredibly disingenuous to not qualify statements about the value the Jazz got in the trade with that statement. Kanter had already acted like a jackass during the 2014 exit interviews, and reports were he started asking for a trade that summer. The NBA trade market isn't static. You have a set of buyers and sellers every year. By the time Kanter demanded a trade publicly, many buyers had already spent their available assets on players -- e.g., the Cavs giving up two 1st round picks for Mosgov. Further, the Jazz almost certainly could have cut Detroit out of the trade, and acquired Reggie Jackson. The handling of the Kanter situation by the FO from the end of the 2013/14 season until his trade was a complete disaster.

 

[Game6Conley]

There's nothing Kanter can do to show that the Jazz made a mistake because they didn't.

-He demanded a trade
-He wanted a max contract
-Favors & Gobert are a better fit & provide better defense

There's a reason he's only playing 21 MPG. He's a great offensive player but nowhere near worth a max contract. OKC is in a better position to utilize his strength & hide his weaknesses (hence the 21 MPG) than Utah was.

It's unfortunate how little we got out of the #3 pick & you can argue that drafting him in the first place was a mistake or that he should've been moved sooner as his game never seemed to mesh with Favors'. But trading him & not giving him the max is unarguable. He didn't want to be here & a better option emerged. Kanter leading OKC to a title (not that he will) won't change the fact that Utah made the right decision.

You explain in detail how he bullied his way out of here, at an inopportune juncture to return assets for him..

but preface it with 'nothing they can do' and 'didn;t make a mistake'.. you sound like an enabler to me..

He was going to be be restricted.. His qualifying offer still would've been like a $9,000,000 salary..

I'd say If we were GM's and you thought that way about Kanter, and I was a GM that wanted to add him, that'd you'd be just the dude I'd be looking to negotiate with..

 

[Diamond77]

If Kanter had decided to take the Jazz qualifying offer this season to become unrestricted free agent next season, we would have been in the playoffs now, probably with the 5th seed.

I think he will step up his game in the playoffs. Some players play better when the game matters most, I think he could be one of them.
Funny how some Jazz fans are always trying to belittle his performances.

Hayward had a good season but he showed he couldn't carry his team to the playoffs. Where was Hayward against the Clippers and Dallas in crucial games?

 

[Game6Conley]

It should be noted it remains to be seen what the Jazz get out of the 1st round pick OKC traded in either 2018,2019 or 2020 but it's lottery protected each year..

Probably a solid chance thats a good player.. Especially if the pick lands in 2018, I'm pretty sure that's going to be a very strong class for bigs..

I'm under the impression they could've gotten a 1st round pick plus a bunch more for Kanter though.

 

[Ellipse]

He publicly demanded a trade.

Is that fact just lost on the Kanter fans? How can one get value from a guy who is not a superstar and is publicly demanding a trade?

And he demanded a trade because he didn't want to come off the bench, but now he starts for OKC ... oh, wait...

Kanter acted a douche and a douche he will always be.

 

[zman1527]

No.

 

[franklin]

I have to be honest. I would love to have watched Kanter dominate the third string big in the second unit for 21 minutes a night. He crushes guys like Joffrey Lauvergne.

 

[franklin]

If Kanter had decided to take the Jazz qualifying offer this season to become unrestricted free agent next season, we would have been in the playoffs now, probably with the 5th seed.

I think he will step up his game in the playoffs. Some players play better when the game matters most, I think he could be one of them.
Funny how some Jazz fans are always trying to belittle his performances.

Hayward had a good season but he showed he couldn't carry his team to the playoffs. Where was Hayward against the Clippers and Dallas in crucial games?

And he would have been forced to not be a bitch, being in a contract year.

 

[MTS]

If Kanter had decided to take the Jazz qualifying offer this season to become unrestricted free agent next season, we would have been in the playoffs now, probably with the 5th seed.

I think he will step up his game in the playoffs. Some players play better when the game matters most, I think he could be one of them.
Funny how some Jazz fans are always trying to belittle his performances.

Hayward had a good season but he showed he couldn't carry his team to the playoffs. Where was Hayward against the Clippers and Dallas in crucial games?

You could've just posted a picture of a turd. Would've been a lot faster and essentially conveyed the same thing.