Does Kanter show Jazz made mistake in these playoffs ......

[Stoked]

Kanter was hated on here sexual favors and a couple others and me were the only ones sticking up for Kanter,with that came the name calling.well boys I DONT WANT TO SAY WE TOLD YOU SO BUT we told u so!

lol

 

[Coach Ellis]

What did you tell us exactly? That he'd show up in one of every four playoff games?

I liked Kanter, but there's no way I'd pay him as much as Hayward. Jazz should have gotten more for trading him, but make no mistake - Kanter doesn't move the needle. He's a 4th or 5th option with poor defense. There's NO way the Jazz could have afforded to sacrifice their financial flexibility to keep him if he wasn't going to be a core piece. If that team loses Durant, they are in a world of hurt. Especially if Wesbrook bolts for LA after that as many expect him to.

 

[NAOS]

I actually liked Kanter, but he wasn't a good fit because he was mis-managed early in his career. I personally advocated trading him (and Burke) before the season and turning the keys over to Rudy and Dante sooner. I wouldn't have traded him to OKC. I have issues with trading talent to rivals. As such, I probably would have taken less to send him to a team from the East. Milwaukee was one that was rumored to be interested in him. Probably would have gone that route.

it's hard to imagine getting less than we got.

 

[Coach Ellis]

it's hard to imagine getting less than we got.

Between the shoulder and knee injuries, poor defense and trade demand - he just didn't have any value on the trade market. I wonder what Portland offered for him. I advocated trading him before the season began or (once Rudy had started to look amazing) to have him play all his minutes with Gobert to help him on defense and allow him to focus on offense and put up big numbers before they traded him.

 

[mellow]

For the record, I never liked Kanter, he reminds me of a sheep. I was at the draft party that year and walked away feeling empty. I wanted Jonas V. and Kawai.

It is however fair to say Kanter was mismanaged while he was with the Jazz. The defining characteristic of the post Boozer Jazz was mismanagement. I believe that has now changed, but we will be reminded of it for years to come.

In other news, isn't it awesome that the Jazz helped create the two Western Conference Finalists?

And, what are the chances that Pops and RC will take away Lindsey's Spurs card for giving the Thunder Kanter for a box of beans?

 

[My2Cents]

Kanter was a 21/22 year old kid from Turkey,what kid tells a long established NBA team what they want to do and get what they want

There was obviously more to it. Kanter's unhappiness was just part of it. The Jazz had apparently pretty much ignored his discontent since his second year. There were other factors. His lack of effort, poor defense, the rise of Gobert, and his impending RFA. All teams have to make decisions about players like Kanter as they approach RFA.
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What I'm trying to tell you is that it's pointless to start and perpetuate threads like this because the majority of Jazz fans liked Kanter and wanted him to stick around. We didn't show him the door, he let himself out. So don't expect us to feel like we made some huge mistake and be remorseful. We're only sorry we traded him to a contender in our own division and that we didn't get more for him.

 

[gomretat]

There was obviously more to it. Kanter's unhappiness was just part of it. The Jazz had apparently pretty much ignored his discontent since his second year. There were other factors. His lack of effort, poor defense, the rise of Gobert, and his impending RFA. All teams have to make decisions about players like Kanter as they approach RFA.
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What I'm trying to tell you is that it's pointless to start and perpetuate threads like this because the majority of Jazz fans liked Kanter and wanted him to stick around. We didn't show him the door, he let himself out. So don't expect us to feel like we made some huge mistake and be remorseful. We're only sorry we traded him to a contender in our own division and that we didn't get more for him.

Well said with one addition. It is ridiculous for anyone to act like we could have gotten more than we did. It has to be obvious than any team will get as much as they can in return for any trade. What OKC offered was the best offer out there. And like it or not Kanter had to go. His immaturity and antics forced the issue which is part of why his trade value was as low as it was. I always liked Enes and hope he grows up. If he does, he will have a nice NBA career. Seems like he has turned a corner in a new environment which is a good thing. And I am betting that most if not all of us prefer Rudy which is created this whole issue to begin with.

 

[MTS]

Kanter was a 21/22 year old kid from Turkey,what kid tells a long established NBA team what they want to do and get what they want,especially a foreign kid. 23 yr old now and a 4th quarter player now for OKC ....who can go to the finals against GS if they win at home

This is all moot because the Jazz would've had to give Kanter the max to keep him. We already have Gobert, Favors, and now Lyles, screw giving the max to a 4th big who also happens to be the worst defensive center in the NBA.

Kanter trolls act like Utah's mistake was not hanging onto him and giving him the max to keep him, which is just laughable.

 

[The Blue Elephant]

This is all moot because the Jazz would've had to give Kanter the max to keep him. We already have Gobert, Favors, and now Lyles, screw giving the max to a 4th big who also happens to be the worst defensive center in the NBA.

Kanter trolls act like Utah's mistake was not hanging onto him and giving him the max to keep him, which is just laughable.

You really think Kanter would be a 4th big behind Lyles? Mad disrespect there. Utahs mistake was drafting Kanter in the first place. Jazz deepest position was big man and drafting Kanter with Al Jefferson, Paul Milsap, and Derrick Favors already was just not a great idea.

Between the shoulder and knee injuries, poor defense and trade demand - he just didn't have any value on the trade market. I wonder what Portland offered for him. I advocated trading him before the season began or (once Rudy had started to look amazing) to have him play all his minutes with Gobert to help him on defense and allow him to focus on offense and put up big numbers before they traded him.

Kanter was the only player last year for OKC to play all 82 games. Favors has missed more time due to injury than Kanter has.

 

[homeytennis]

You really think Kanter would be a 4th big behind Lyles? Mad disrespect there. Utahs mistake was drafting Kanter in the first place. Jazz deepest position was big man and drafting Kanter with Al Jefferson, Paul Milsap, and Derrick Favors already was just not a great idea.



Kanter was the only player last year for OKC to play all 82 games. Favors has missed more time due to injury than Kanter has.

Anyone care to join me on the Tibor Pleiss bandwagon?

 

[MTS]

You really think Kanter would be a 4th big behind Lyles? Mad disrespect there.

I meant 4th in terms of number of bigs that would be in the rotation, not his place in the rotation. Wouldn't want to give the max to a fourth big when we already have now three extremely solid bigs.

 

[silesian]

Anyone care to join me on the Tibor Pleiss bandwagon?

I'm already on the bandwagon (we are a small minority in Jazz-ville). I watched most of his Idaho games this year and think he can be a serviceable backup who can space the floor a bit. I think Lindsay and Snyder covet a shooting 7-footer. The question is how much defense can they get from him and how much strength can he gain so that he is an adequate inside presence. I've heard some rumors about Withey not being back and if this is true this means the team has some belief in Pleiß.