Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking

[LogGrad98]

I'm a repub? What? LMFAO at Thriller. Not to mention I wasn't even part of this convo or even think Thriller is worth a discussion.

I agree with the general vibe going on here. Sure he can fire him but the timing is highly suspicious. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I want an independent investigation into all this. One that the Rs and Ds cannot mess with more than they already are.

You have to remember that everyone who doesn't have the democrat party oath and talking points tattooed on their face is automatically lumped in with all the other enemies/stupid morons/evil demons of the world. Since you don't exactly toe the party line, you, my friend, are a "repub", and get all the vitriol inherent in that label.

That is easier than actually thinking or conversing with others and maybe even challenging one's own assumptions.

 

[LogGrad98]

So then who should do the investigation? Is there anyone who doesn't lean a little right or left, that doesn't have an opinion on trump, that can't be corrupted or influenced?

Sounds like a search for a unicorn.

Maybe the Russians can help with the investigation. They seem to be good at uncovering stuff people are trying to keep covered up.

 

[LogGrad98]

Isn't the FBI non partisan/independent?

Depends on what you mean by non partisan. For most people if there are decisions made that go against their political philosophy then the offender is automatically partisan. But if they make mostly decisions that agree with one political agenda then the adherents of that agenda will claim they are "fair and balanced". It is a complicated game really. Most people are truly incapable of true objectivity on any level and in any arena. With great effort we can get close, but true objectivity evades most everyone. We are all full of biases.

That said, yes the FBI is supposed to remain as neutral as they can, given the policies driving the organization and the inherent biases of their leadership.

 

[Jonah]

There is always going to be bias, but I don't want the investigation under the Rs or Ds direct control. Like Comey was under Trump's control. Yes they will have to report updates and findings to congress but I don't want them running the show or being able to control the person that is.

No, I don't expect it to happen and as such I am skeptical and suspicious of any finding that are released. Both sides are garbage

It’s become obvious there needs to be a special prosecutor, someone independent of the FBI and both major parties.

 

[Harambe]

You have to remember that everyone who doesn't have the democrat party oath and talking points tattooed on their face is automatically lumped in with all the other enemies/stupid morons/evil demons of the world. Since you don't exactly toe the party line, you, my friend, are a "repub", and get all the vitriol inherent in that label.

That is easier than actually thinking or conversing with others and maybe even challenging one's own assumptions.

You do realize the other side feels the exact same way, right?

 

[The Midnight]

Welp. There you go. You can only hide the truth for so long.

Wall Street Journal‏Verified account @WSJ 3h3 hours ago

Trump says he had already made up his mind to fire Comey before Rosenstein meeting

 

[The Midnight]

LOL ... I mean how are Trump's people going to defend this one? Kellyanne basically spent the whole day yesterday on CNN defending Trump's decision going on and on and on about how Rosenstein spent the whole of 14 days coming with the report, and how independent he was, and how Congress voted for him, etc, etc, etc. And how Trump followed that recommendation to the T.


All the while Trump had already made up his mind BEFORE even reading the damn report!!!


Oh man, you really can't make this stuff up.

 

[The Midnight]

BTW - because of this, Trump is the first president since Richard Nixon to have fired a law enforcement official overseeing an investigation with ties to the White House.


What a GREAT company to be in.

 

[Stoked]

You do realize the other side feels the exact same way, right?

The other main political party*

 

[Jonah]

Welp. There you go. You can only hide the truth for so long.

The Rosenstein excuse was a transparent and absurd subterfuge. Trump’s anger issues and impulsive nature led him to fire Comey at the worst possible time, right as Comey was seeking to expand the Trump-Russia investigation. Collusion with Russia during the election is an ongoing embarrassment for Trump and an endless political crucible to endure but it was never something over which Trump was going to face impeachment. Obstruction of justice, however, is a completely different story. Through his own uncontrollable hubris, Trump has opened the door to the very charge that brought down Nixon.

 

[RandyForRubio]

BTW - because of this, Trump is the first president since Richard Nixon to have fired a law enforcement official overseeing an investigation with ties to the White House.


What a GREAT company to be in.

I'd be pretty tickled if Trump turned out to be as good a president as Nixon was.

 

[The Midnight]

The Rosenstein excuse was a transparent and absurd subterfuge. Trump’s anger issues and impulsive nature led him to fire Comey at the worst possible time, right as Comey was seeking to expand the Trump-Russia investigation. Collusion with Russia during the election is an ongoing embarrassment for Trump and an endless political crucible to endure but it was never something over which Trump was going to face impeachment. Obstruction of justice, however, is a completely different story. Through his own uncontrollable hubris, Trump has opened the door to the very charge that brought down Nixon.

But how do you prove beyond a reasonable doubt why Trump really fired Comey?