I want to thank you for coming out of the conservative closet, and acknowledging your pride in promoting propaganda for violent reactionary groups.
Donald Fires FBI Director who's investigating Russian Election Hacking
I want to thank you for coming out of the conservative closet, and acknowledging your pride in promoting propaganda for violent reactionary groups.
Let's... let's not take this further than it has. I'm convinced word of mouth advertising of the so-deemed saviorization of Nazi's should not be spread, even on accident by unsuspecting, naive citizens of the internet. Archie says he's innocently asking us if we've seen the P R O U D B O Y E video that paints them as saviors, and thinks I'm calling him a Nazi for it.
Fake Edit: Harambe started more **** this weekend; 10/19. GO JAZZ!
Fake Edit: Harambe started more **** this weekend; 10/19. GO JAZZ!
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One of the only benefits of the trump era has been seeing the split in decent people and principled conservatives vs the indecent, immoral, racist, and opportunistic Trumpers. I can respect conservative never Trumpers, like Joe Scarborough, Tom Nichols, George Will, Max Boot, Steve Schmidt, David Frum, and the late Charles Krauthammer. But I cannot respect the loudmouth losers that dominate the right today. Shapiro, Tomi, Kirk, Hannity, and all the other racist and Nazi Trumpers are just deplorable. Their “conservative principles” and “values” were never deeply rooted. Stop masquerading as being neutral or conservative.
This upcoming election is increasingly becoming the decent and moral vs indecent and immoral. Those who value rational conversation vs racism and trolling.
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Archie Moses
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/16/ted-wheeler-portland-mayor-vows-crackdown-street-b/
Everything that's happening in Portland from the Proudboys to the Antifa is an embarrassment to the country.
The video that popped up in my YouTube feed is one of many cringeworthy moments. It takes a strong man to attack an elderly woman. I'm not sorry that resonated with me, Mr Holier than though Me Too movement guy.
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We might keep in mind that Antifa likely arose in response to the increased public profile of the white nationalist and neo Nazi groups, and not the other way around. And it's clear, from my own perspective, my bias if one wants to call it that, that it was the words of candidate Trump, and then President Trump which emboldened those right wing groups to flex their muscles in a more public fashion.
So, it is not difficult for me to lay the blame on Trump himself. Praising the body slamming of a journalist, whose only "crime" was attempting to ask the candidate a question, would clearly energize the right wing, not the left wing. To put it mildly, the president is not helping any. At all. And here's the thing: what the president says carries a lot more influence then just about anybody else. It should not, in my opinion, because I personally think he's an idiot, but the media hangs on his every word, and here we are now, the media in an uproar over his praising the body slamming of a journalist even as a Saudi journalist with legal residence in the United States is murdered in a Saudi embassy.
Again, which group is going to feel he's on their side here, Antifa, or the Proud Boys? The media repeats and broadcasts his words, and his words encourage right wing hate groups. Period.
The Proud Boys are in the news this week, their leader invited to talk to a mainstream New York Republican group. Good grief, why invite such a guy to speak?!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/proud-...new-york-city-gavin-mcinnes-event-2018-10-18/
So, it is not difficult for me to lay the blame on Trump himself. Praising the body slamming of a journalist, whose only "crime" was attempting to ask the candidate a question, would clearly energize the right wing, not the left wing. To put it mildly, the president is not helping any. At all. And here's the thing: what the president says carries a lot more influence then just about anybody else. It should not, in my opinion, because I personally think he's an idiot, but the media hangs on his every word, and here we are now, the media in an uproar over his praising the body slamming of a journalist even as a Saudi journalist with legal residence in the United States is murdered in a Saudi embassy.
Again, which group is going to feel he's on their side here, Antifa, or the Proud Boys? The media repeats and broadcasts his words, and his words encourage right wing hate groups. Period.
The Proud Boys are in the news this week, their leader invited to talk to a mainstream New York Republican group. Good grief, why invite such a guy to speak?!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/proud-...new-york-city-gavin-mcinnes-event-2018-10-18/
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So the Saudis finally offered their spin on Khashoggi's death. It's not credible at all, IMO, but, as expected, it seems to be good enough for Trump.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/19/politics/lawmakers-skepticism-saudi-khashoggi/index.html
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/10/19/politics/lawmakers-skepticism-saudi-khashoggi/index.html
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It's up to Turkey now. If they have the evidence they have leaked to their state controlled media, they will need to produce it if they want to put the lie to the Saudi cover story.
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45926754
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-saudis-have-a-new-story-with-a-glaring-hole
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45926754
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...e-saudis-have-a-new-story-with-a-glaring-hole
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So Donald and the Saudi tyrant want us to believe that a random reporter, 60 years old, randomly entered the Saudi embassy and randomly picked a fight with 15 assassins with bone saws?
If you believe in Donald’s excuse then you’re watching way too much Fox News.
If you believe in Donald’s excuse then you’re watching way too much Fox News.
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Sounds rather unlikely to me
I don't think it has been mentioned much in the reporting of the story.
Khashoggi was engaged and needed some type of document from the Saudi government to get a marriage licence. He entered the Embassy in order to get the documents he needed to that end. I'm sure he had been in contact with the embassy in regard to what he needed and they knew he was coming.
His fiancee was outside waiting for him. She waited for hours and he never came out.
Anyway, makes it just that much more tragic.
Khashoggi was engaged and needed some type of document from the Saudi government to get a marriage licence. He entered the Embassy in order to get the documents he needed to that end. I'm sure he had been in contact with the embassy in regard to what he needed and they knew he was coming.
His fiancee was outside waiting for him. She waited for hours and he never came out.
Anyway, makes it just that much more tragic.
I knew he was there for paperwork for his wedding. I didn't realize she was outside.
Guess he shouldn't have picked a fight. With 15 assassins. With a bone-saw.
Archie Moses
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I love morons who link Ben Shapiro with Charlottesville and and hate crimes against Jews. Get educated, fool.
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