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Heathme said:
It is not xenophobic to be concerned about the people in a caravan of 7000 to 12000 people.
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Yes, it is. It is xenophobic to treat a group that's not even the size of medium suburban city as some sort of existential threat.

I would expect a handful of criminals in any group that size. That's one thing that gets sorted out in the vetting process asylum claimant go through.
 
One Brow said:
Yes, it is. It is xenophobic to treat a group that's not even the size of medium suburban city as some sort of existential threat.

I would expect a handful of criminals in any group that size. That's one thing that gets sorted out in the vetting process asylum claimant go through.
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Not to mention the unnecessary and unsubstantiated claim that the caravan consisted of/included “unknown middle easterners.” I mean, what was the intent of such an outlandish claim if not to incite fear for middle eastern terrorists?

It’s really childish to pretend that trump intended on something other than fan the flames of xenophobia.
 
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Bulletproof said:
It certainly does a good job of reinforcing the Republican view of what Democrats are.

Effectiveness level 9/10 in strengthening the walls of the bubble so you don't have to think about or understand what other people are saying.
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Dripping with ridicule and self-righteous, holier-than-thou, scorn. I find it rather off-putting. Kind of cringe worthy actually.

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Well, add another Trumper to prison. If trump is so innocent why are his followers so eager to derail the investigation?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...efers-scheme-targeting-mueller-to-fbi/574411/

An alleged scheme to pay off women to fabricate sexual assault allegations against Special Counsel Robert Mueller has been referred to the FBI for further investigation, according to a spokesman for the special counsel’s office, Peter Carr. “When we learned last week of allegations that women were offered money to make false claims about the Special Counsel, we immediately referred the matter to the FBI for investigation,” Carr said in a statement on Tuesday.

The special counsel’s attention to this scheme—which was brought to the office by a woman claiming she herself had been offered money to make up sexual harassment claims against Mueller—and its decision to release a rare statement about it to reporters indicates the seriousness with which the office is taking the purported scheme to discredit Mueller in the middle of an ongoing investigation.

The special counsel’s office confirmed that the scheme was brought to its attention by several journalists who were told about it by a woman alleging that she herself had been offered roughly $20,000 by a GOP activist named Jack Burkman “to make accusations of sexual misconduct and workplace harassment against Robert Mueller.” The woman told journalists that she had worked for Mueller as a paralegal at the Pillsbury, Madison, and Sutro law firm in 1974. The firm has not returned a request for comment about whether the woman actually worked there.
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Jack Burkman apparently has connections to Roger Stone. Most people reporting on this issue believe he and Burkman concocted this dirty scheme. I’m guessing the FBI is not going to waste any time sending this jerk and his/her accomplices to prison. And if they can link him or the money to trump? Then you’ll have clear obstruction of justice, just like the Nixon tapes
 
Wow. Hopefully they've got the evidence they need to put Burkman in jail (assuming he's guilty, etc), and hopefully there's a money trail to whoever originated it.
 
colton said:
Wow. Hopefully they've got the evidence they need to put Burkman in jail (assuming he's guilty, etc), and hopefully there's a money trail to whoever originated it.
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Surefire intelligence was the “intelligence” company offering these women money. Apparently its CEO is Jacob Wohl. Even though he denied knowing anything about this, when reporters called the company’s number, it led to Wohl’s mother’s voicemail. Wohl is a huge trump supporter on twitter and has been banned by the SEC for life after his financial scandals.

Also, apparently reporters were threatened when writing this story.

This is pretty dark involving a lot of shadowy characters like Burkman, Stone, and Wohl.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...cheme-targeting-him-fbi-investigation-n926301

“I gave Burkman a call. I wanted to know who ‘Surefire Intelligence’ is. That’s when he told me about Jacob Wohl,” said Krassenstein. “To me, this was all a setup from somebody trying to discredit the media.”

Early this morning, Wohl tweeted, “Several media sources tell me that a scandalous story about Mueller is breaking tomorrow. Should be interesting. Stay tuned!”

Reached by direct message on Twitter, Wohl denied having a hand in any plot to pay women making false allegations against Mueller. “I don't have any involvement in any investigations of any kind. I'm not quite that cool,” he said.

Wohl declined to comment on his involvement with Surefire Intelligence. However, his email is listed in the domain records for Surefire Intelligence’s website and calls to a number listed on the Surefire Intelligence website went to a voicemail message which provided another phone number, listed in public records as belonging to Wohl’s mother.

Wohl stopped responding to NBC News after being told Surefire’s official phone number redirects to his mother’s voicemail.
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Bulletproof said:
It's a scary time to be a man who tries to pay women to lie about sexual assault. What is the world coming to?
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I'm guessing there are some people who really believe that every single man harasses women, or that all these allegations are just random and you can create them about anyone.
 
Heathme said:
You watch/read the news right?

It is not xenophobic to be concerned about the people in a caravan of 7000 to 12000 people.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/24/caravan_member_there_are_criminals_in_here.html

You know darn well that Pres. Trump is using the nationalist definition of:
a person devoted to nationalism (the devotion and loyalty to one's own country) Anything else you say is a load of crap.

Typical liberal response. Just because I have a different opinion that is also backed up by facts and studies, I must be "stupid".
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It comes close enough for me. Half a billion a year to help refugees find homes. That's already in place and waiting for the caravan to arrive. That is literally their job. No new laws or presidential acts needed.

But uhm... Detainment camps? Cages for children? Two billion in 2018 alone. And we're still two months out.

It's rare that it's cheaper to be a good people. This is one of those situations. Other than xenophobia, is there another reason?
 
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