Donald is about to go through some things...

[fishonjazz]

'It Was Really Bad': Ex-Trump White House Press Secretary Details Harassment

Stephanie Grisham said then-President Donald Trump called in one staffer "so that they could look at her ***."

www.yahoo.com

Stephanie Grisham, who served as White House press secretary under Donald Trump, said she witnessed the then-president’s sexual harassment firsthand..

She told CNN that she had to try to protect one staffer in particular who Trump would request accompany him on trips.

“He one time had one of my other deputies bring her back so that they could look at her ***, is what he said to him,” Grisham said. “I sat down and talked to her at one point, asked her if she was uncomfortable. I tried everything I could to ensure she was never alone with him.”

Grisham said she spoke to various chiefs of staff, including Mark Meadows, about Trump’s behavior.

“I think, at the end of the day, what could they do other than go in there and say, ‘This isn’t good, Sir’?” she said. “Donald Trump will do what Donald Trump wants to do.” (grab em by the ***** anyone?)

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Trump sure does rack up a lot of losses in courtrooms.

This loss should worry everyone. I'm sure that every Trump hater did zero research into this trial. The Thriller didn't even get the verdict right. There is no way Trump should have been found guilty of anything in this trial. There was no evidence of the event. The supposed victim who was the only witness to the event seemed unable to remember anything specific that could be used to either verify or debunk her story which sounded like it was pulled from the pages of a pulp romance novel.

He walked in through the revolving door of HighEnd Department Store as I was walking out. I hated him but he was taller and more handsome than I remembered. He said "hey, you're that super famous women's advice newspaper columnist" and I had playful retort. He said "I could use your advice. Come in to help me pick out a gift." I giggled like a schoolgirl and he lead me to the lingerie section. He picked up a barely-there lacy piece and told me to try it on. I giggled. What was I doing? I hated this man and yet I went into the dressing room. He followed me in and pressed against me....

I've embellished almost nothing. That is how her testimony reads. She can't remember the year. This super fancy department store in the mid-90's apparently had no sales staff and the dressing room doors weren't locked. There is a ton of evidence pertaining to Trump's character including the Billy Bush tape and seemingly that is what the judgement was based on. At best, this can be seen as the equivalent of an NBA make-up call. There is no evidence Trump was there, whenever it was supposed to have happened, nor that he had any idea who this woman's advice columnist was let alone to know her well enough to instantly recognize her in passing.

This is our court system now. Good luck if you ever end up in it, and hope the jury likes you because this verdict makes it evident that is the only thing that matters.

 

[One Brow]

There is no way Trump should have been found guilty of anything in this trial. There was no evidence of the event.

Carroll's lawyer called two witnesses (Birnbach and Martin) that Carroll told back in 1996.

This super fancy department store in the mid-90's apparently had no sales staff and the dressing room doors weren't locked.

That was the testimony of Beall.

There is a ton of evidence pertaining to Trump's character including the Billy Bush tape and seemingly that is what the judgement was based on.

There is the testimony of Carroll, Birnbach, and Martin. However, they're women, so perhaps you discount their testimony.

11 witnesses testified in Donald Trump’s rape trial. Here’s what they said.

E. Jean Carroll is suing him in Manhattan federal court for battery over the alleged rape and for defamation over social media comments.

www.politico.com

 

[Al-O-Meter]

There is the testimony of Carroll, Birnbach, and Martin. However, they're women, so perhaps you discount their testimony.

I discount everyone's testimony. Witnesses honestly believe they remember things that never happened, and others will straight out lie. I never, ever, ever think that witness testimony, in the absence of any corroborating evidence that is not other witness testimony, ever constitutes proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a thing happened.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Too bad civil trials aren't about guilt or reasonable doubt...

 

[Gameface]

Too bad civil trials aren't about guilt or reasonable doubt...

Or prison time.

 

[Mongoose]

its more establishment BS- are we going to now start charging presidents with this stuff? What about Clinton while he was president? or Biden and Tara Reade?

New York literally changed the law for one year to allow them to charge Trump with this before the election. Wow...


View: https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1656270521787613184?s=20

Statute Of Limitations On Sexual Assault Eliminated For One Year In New York Following Passage Of The Adult Survivors Act

With Governor Hochul’s signing yesterday of the Adult Survivors Act (the “ASA”), New York has taken a monumental step towards providing an avenue for victims of sexual abuse to seek legal recourse against their perpetrators and employers that were previously time-barred due to statute of limitati...

www.forbes.com

 

[One Brow]

its more establishment BS- are we going to now start charging presidents with this stuff? What about Clinton while he was president? or Biden and Tara Reade?

I support going after Clinton or Biden in the same manner.

New York literally changed the law for one year to allow them to charge Trump with this before the election. Wow...

Carroll sued for defamation in 2019, and the buld of the award was for damages related to defamation. DC_Draino is lying.

 

[One Brow]

I discount everyone's testimony. Witnesses honestly believe they remember things that never happened, and others will straight out lie. I never, ever, ever think that witness testimony, in the absence of any corroborating evidence that is not other witness testimony, ever constitutes proof beyond a reasonable doubt that a thing happened.

Since we have video of Penny killing Neely, and none of Neely posing any kind of threat, a consistent person with this stance would be calling out for murder charges against Penny.

 

[Mongoose]

I support going after Clinton or Biden in the same manner.


Carroll sued for defamation in 2019, and the buld of the award was for damages related to defamation. DC_Draino is lying.

The forbes article I also linked explaining the change to the law in 2022 is a lie?

Here's another article specifically linking Trump to this change by the guardian - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/04/sexual-abuse-lawsuits-new-york-adult-survivors-act

It isnt rocket science to see hat is going on here. It doesn't matter if I believe her or not, the real concern here should be the legal and political shenanigans that the establishment is willing to do to silence and harass a political opponent. This again is the kind of crap that they said Trump was going to do.

 

[One Brow]

The forbes article I also linked explaining the change to the law in 2022 is a lie?

No, just mostly irrelevant to the Carroll case. Did you read the Forbes article? It makes no mention of Carroll nor of Trump. As I pointed out, DC_Draino was the liar.

 

[Mongoose]

No, just mostly irrelevant to the Carroll case. Did you read the Forbes article? It makes no mention of Carroll nor of Trump. As I pointed out, DC_Draino was the liar.

Heres another one - https://www.businessinsider.com/e-jean-carroll-sue-trump-new-york-adult-survivors-act-2022-9
and another -https://search.brave.com/search?q=trump+adult+assault+act&source=desktop
and another - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/25/e-jean-carroll-sues-donald-trump-rape/
and another -
View: https://www.democracynow.org/2022/11/28/headlines/e_jean_carroll_sues_trump_for_sexual_assault_using_new_yorks_adult_survivors_act