Donald is about to go through some things...

[LogGrad98]

Yeah, pretty sure she turned MTG into a newt.

 

[Sardines]

Yeah, pretty sure she turned MTG into a newt.

That explains a lot

 

[Red]

. To start, if Jackson and Sotomayor were right then we don't need to bother with the upcoming election because Biden is now a king and kings don't need to be elected.

Biden told the nation that he doesn’t need such power. Ask Trump if he feels the same way.

 

[fishonjazz]

This is the legacy of wedge politics 40 years of pitting people against each other has created all sorts of fault lines and both sides of politics have exploited it. North South, Urban Rural, Black White, so many different ways to pit poor people against each other while the wealthy maintain their class interest above it all.

Great post.

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[fishonjazz]

Those dissenting opinions put on display why nearly everyone agrees that Sotomayor and Jackson are the dumb ones. To start, if Jackson and Sotomayor were right then we don't need to bother with the upcoming election because Biden is now a king and kings don't need to be elected. ... Except there is going to be an election because Sotamayor and Jackson are morons.

Next, a sitting US President cannot have Seal Team 6 assassinate a political rival because all of Seal Team 6 and anyone remotely related to facilitating or even knowing about the plot doesn't have any immunity.

It is sad SOCTUS had to step in to stop Biden's gross weaponization of the DOJ against his main political rival, but once again it appears the guardrails are holding. Thank you founders.

A sitting us president could have seal team 6 assassinate a political rival. The assassins go to prison because they don't have immunity. President is good to go though.

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[fishonjazz]

Of that, I have no doubt. We'll have an election this November and you still won't believe it. Absolutely nothing has changed except that Biden will have a harder time corrupting the DOJ into being a tool he can use against his political enemy. What Biden has been doing is an illegal usurpation of power.

Biden did not have the constitutional power to forgive student loan debt. The courts affirmed that Biden did not have that power. Biden did it anyway and is on the campaign trail bragging how he not only forgave student loan debt but that he also claimed for himself the power to overrule the Supreme Court to do it. In our system of checks and balances, he broke one.

The criminal prosecution of Trump by Jack Smith is also totally illegal, but apparently it is fine because the law is being broken to go after Trump so the ends justify the means. Special Prosecutors with prosecutorial power need to be confirmed by the Senate. Robert Mueller didn't need to be confirmed by the Senate because he was an "inferior officer" who couldn't prosecute but instead had to hand off that duty. Jack Smith is prosecuting. He is not an inferior officer but it is only the US constitution requiring such as office to be "established by Law" meaning created by the Legislative Branch.

SCOTUS isn't fostering authoritarianism. SCOTUS is standing in the way of it, and now the real pro-authoritarians are spinning up a campaign to attack and depower the only branch standing between themselves and claiming absolute power. It is not a good thing when the President says he can ignore the rulings of the court. It is not a good thing to delegitimize a coequal branch of government.

Why would presidential immunity make it harder for Biden to weaponize the DOJ?

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[LogGrad98]

A sitting us president could have seal team 6 assassinate a political rival. The assassins go to prison because they don't have immunity. President is good to go though.

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Then he pardons them. Done and done. No reason not to follow his orders at that point.

 

[LogGrad98]

Biden told the nation that he doesn’t need such power. Ask Trump if he feels the same way.

Scary thing is, knowing the alternative, maybe he does need it.

 

[fishonjazz]

Then he pardons them. Done and done. No reason not to follow his orders at that point.

Good point

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[Al-O-Meter]

A sitting us president could have seal team 6 assassinate a political rival. The assassins go to prison because they don't have immunity. President is good to go though.

Not at all. This ruling created three tiers of activities: Core powers, non-core duties, and private activities.

For core powers there is immunity. If you as a private citizen ordered that someone overseas be killed then you'd be prosecuted, but if the President ordered a drone to kill a terrorist in Yemen then he's immune.

For non-core duties, there is presumptive immunity. For citizens there is presumptive innocence, but that doesn't mean you can go out an commit crimes without consequence. It means the prosecution must prove your guilt and if they don't prove it then you are not guilty. You don't need to prove your innocence because you have presumptive innocence. For non-core duties, a US President has presumptive immunity.

For private activates, the US President is no different from you, me, or any American citizen who has a billion dollars for defense attorneys.

The ruling from the Supreme Court is actually pretty common sense and mild, but Sotomayor used it as an excuse to crank out political propaganda which left-leaning media is running with.

That said, even in Sotomayor's fever dream world, a US President could be held to account by the Legislative Branch. They have the power to impeach, convict, remove Secret Service protection, and continually report the former President's whereabouts. That world's former President likely wouldn't make it a week. Luckily our reality is not the one Sotomayor painted and Trump is not free and clear. He is still going to get prosecuted by Jack Smith.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Why would presidential immunity make it harder for Biden to weaponize the DOJ?

...against his main political rival. This ruling makes it harder for Biden to weaponize the DOJ against his main political rival. Jack Smith is still going to prosecute Trump, but many of the avenues Smith was seeking are now closed by this ruling, and other he will have to prove more than he otherwise would have if not for Presidents have presumptive immunity.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Biden told the nation that he doesn’t need such power. Ask Trump if he feels the same way.

Biden doesn't have the power, but speaking of that quick 4 minute reading off the teleprompter, did you catch how much bronzer Biden is now wearing? Trump should sue for trademark infringement.

As for needing power, I've never once seen Trump boast about defying the Supreme Court. Biden brags about it constantly.