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I think [MENTION=26]Gameface[/MENTION]'s point was that Joe Bag refers to all female horses as 'bitches'. But, I do appreciate the review of nomenclature.
 
fishonjazz said:
I'm just curious, how do you turn over emails if they have been deleted?
If they are deleted then they no longer exist I thought.
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When her private email account was discovered she was ordered to turn over all of her emails pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act. She and her staff decided Americans had no right to see a large number of them and deleted them.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-did-hillary-clinton-delete-about-30000-emails-2015-3

If the government ever has reason to suspect you of wrongdoing don't expect them to give you the same courtesy of allowing you to tamper with the evidence before turning it over. In other words, if you were to follow Clinton's lead you'd get yourself into a hell of a lot of trouble.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
When her private email account was discovered she was ordered to turn over all of her emails pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act. She and her staff decided Americans had no right to see a large number of them and deleted them.

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-did-hillary-clinton-delete-about-30000-emails-2015-3

If the government ever has reason to suspect you of wrongdoing don't expect them to give you the same courtesy of allowing you to tamper with the evidence before turning it over. In other words, if you were to follow Clinton's lead you'd get yourself into a hell of a lot of trouble.
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I wasn't disputing that she deleted them or even arguing about whether she did right or wrong or how scummy she is or isn't.

I just saw in your post that you said she deleted her emails AND turned them in to someone.

I was just curious if that is even possible or not to do. I figured that If she deleted them then they would be gone and therefore impossible to turn in to anyone.

Edit: I read you original post again and I think I misunderstood what you said. I thought you said she turned in her deleted emails. What I'm now thinking you actually said is that she deleted some emails, and then turned in her emails that she did not delete.

My bad, nevermind and sorry for the confusion.
 
fishonjazz said:
I wasn't disputing that she deleted them or even arguing about whether she did right or wrong or how scummy she is or isn't.

I just saw in your post that you said she deleted her emails AND turned them in to someone.

I was just curious if that is even possible or not to do. I figured that If she deleted them then they would be gone and therefore impossible to turn in to anyone.
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They were only impossible to turn over because she deleted them after they were requested. If she had been doing her government business on the government server she would never have had the ability to delete any of them (either before or after the fact). That's one of the many problems with what she did, and the reason that so many people believe she is hiding things.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
They were only impossible to turn over because she deleted them after they were requested.
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I know it's silly, but this is what I was disputing in your original post.

You said she deleted her emails AND turned them over in your first post.
In this post I'm quoting now, you say that they were impossible to turn over. I agree and that was my point.

So she never turned them over because she deleted them.
Now we are clear
 
fishonjazz said:
I know it's silly, but this is what I was disputing in your original post.

You said she deleted her emails AND turned them over in your first post.
In this post I'm quoting now, you say that they were impossible to turn over. I agree and that was my point.

So she never turned them over because she deleted them.
Now we are clear
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I was probably trying to say that she deleted a bunch of emails before fulfilling the request to turn them over. My wording must have been sloppy. Sorry bout dat.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I was probably trying to say that she deleted a bunch of emails before fulfilling the request to turn them over. My wording must have been sloppy. Sorry bout dat.
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It's all good. I didn't need to nitpick anyway.
It was dumb of me to even say anything.

My bad bro
 
fishonjazz said:
Good point
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Some people believe that Clinton used her email account to communicate with foreign donors to the Clinton Foundation who subsequently received State Department approvals for deals that they made millions (and even billions) on. If this happened it would clearly be illegal influence peddling (much worse than the influence peddling already revealed in emails we are aware of). So you think we should just tell these foreigners that they need to turn over their emails to us? Under what authority do we ask given that they are not US citizens and not subject to our laws. Honestly, we don't even need to ask the question to know how they would reply.

A much better system would be for all US government officials to do government business on government email (as required by law) so that if questions arise we can verify what was actually communicated by email. If a government official circumvents this system they ought to face appropriate punishment (regardless of their last name).
 
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