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JazzGal said:
I can get easily frustrated when people (especially politicians) do not see things in a way that are obvious to me. It can be easy to think that our country is facing terrible problems and that we are on the brink of disaster. And then I realize how wonderful my life really is. I have a place to live where I feel safe, where I do not have to worry about being hit by bombs or being forced out by armed terrorists, and where I have running water, sewer systems, electricity. I have food to eat, and I have clothes to wear. I have a good job that pays the bills and provides health insurance and other benefits. If I didn't have those things, there are resources available to assist. I have a reasonable expectation of not contracting all manner of horrible infectious diseases and an expectation of medical care in a timely fashion. I have relatively clean air to breath 10 months of the year. I have a good expectation that my nieces and nephews will all grow into adulthood. I have a car and cheap gas that allows me to travel on fairly well-kept roads. I have plenty of opportunities for entertainment. I can worship wherever I choose, or not worship at all, without fearing for my life. I have so many great things in my life, and I am so grateful for that. There are millions, perhaps billions, in this world who are not anywhere near as lucky and would trade for my simple little life in a heartbeat. While we obviously want what is best for our country, whatever we perceive that to be, sometimes we might want to remember how amazing our lives are in comparison to so much of the world. We aren't anywhere near as bad off as we sometimes believe.

And now I will go back to making fun of the Utah Legislature.
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I agree with all that you said, so long as compliance doesn't lead to losing those things. I didn't move here from Spain for no reason, I knew that I would have it better here economically. In other areas, well that's a different story... It was a tough decision to make that's for sure.
 
Jamezz said:
I was enjoying this discussion but okay, good day to you too.
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ok, how's this:

(a) Only disguises believe in pure things. (b) Hatred isn't any more real or any simpler than jealousy, hunger, confusion, horniness, happiness, sadness, etc. (c) Trump isn't in control of the hatred he's stoking; and he doesn't understand it very well or he wouldn't be doing it.
 
JazzGal said:
I can get easily frustrated when people (especially politicians) do not see things in a way that are obvious to me. It can be easy to think that our country is facing terrible problems and that we are on the brink of disaster. And then I realize how wonderful my life really is. I have a place to live where I feel safe, where I do not have to worry about being hit by bombs or being forced out by armed terrorists, and where I have running water, sewer systems, electricity. I have food to eat, and I have clothes to wear. I have a good job that pays the bills and provides health insurance and other benefits. If I didn't have those things, there are resources available to assist. I have a reasonable expectation of not contracting all manner of horrible infectious diseases and an expectation of medical care in a timely fashion. I have relatively clean air to breath 10 months of the year. I have a good expectation that my nieces and nephews will all grow into adulthood. I have a car and cheap gas that allows me to travel on fairly well-kept roads. I have plenty of opportunities for entertainment. I can worship wherever I choose, or not worship at all, without fearing for my life. I have so many great things in my life, and I am so grateful for that. There are millions, perhaps billions, in this world who are not anywhere near as lucky and would trade for my simple little life in a heartbeat. While we obviously want what is best for our country, whatever we perceive that to be, sometimes we might want to remember how amazing our lives are in comparison to so much of the world. We aren't anywhere near as bad off as we sometimes believe.

And now I will go back to making fun of the Utah Legislature.
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Isn't this a dangerous mindset though? You may not be as bad off, but there are certainly many that are, and in a democracy they still rely on your help in getting the representation they need.
 
NAOS said:
ok, how's this:

(a) Only disguises believe in pure things. (b) Hatred isn't any more real or any simpler than jealousy, hunger, confusion, horniness, happiness, sadness, etc. (c) Trump isn't in control of the hatred he's stoking; and he doesn't understand it very well or he wouldn't be doing it.
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Or is he? I don't think he's naive to the reactions he might be causing on his supporters. Now be it a consequence of his real views for the future of this country or a consequence of just rolling with what seems to be working towards achieving the goal of becoming the President is a whole different story.

About your point a), you don't think we're born in pure innocence and purity? I do, then it's social conditioning which molds us into one thing or the other. I'm yet to see cases of racism in a classroom of 2, 3, 4 year olds, no dead set timeline for when our environment starts messing with our consciousness but it's somewhere around that time frame.
 
JimLes said:
Welcome to the real world and what it's been like being every other country in the world. Pretty much ever. You're basically complaining about what it's like to be normal instead of treated in a special way.
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Oh. I guess we should get ourselves the same sort of crappy government that the rest of the world has then, right?
 
fgcamel said:
Isn't this a dangerous mindset though? You may not be as bad off, but there are certainly many that are, and in a democracy they still rely on your help in getting the representation they need.
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I'm not saying to ignore the issues of the day. I want to do all I can to improve the world around me. My point is that I do not want to drown in fear and anger, and I want to appreciate all the wonderful things in life - like the Jazz win last night.

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Joe, I'm not trying to be a dick here-- have you ever lived, or even gone on a trip outside of the US?
 
dalamon said:
I'd rather live in my country than yours. 100 times over.
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You're a lucky man. Everyone should be fortunate enough to live in a country they love.

Like you, I love my country.

JimLes' comment was odd any way you slice it, and that's what I was really responding to.
 
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