JimLes
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I wonder if these people protesting his events realize they're pushing more voters towards Trump. I'm assuming they don't.
What makes you think that's not the point?
I wonder if these people protesting his events realize they're pushing more voters towards Trump. I'm assuming they don't.
."What is happening in this primary is just a distillation of what’s been happening inside their party for more than a decade. I mean, the reason that many of their voters are responding is because this is what’s been fed through the messages they’ve been sending for a long time — that you just make flat assertions that don’t comport with the facts. That you just deny the evidence of science. That compromise is a betrayal. That the other side isn’t simply wrong, or we just disagree, we want to take a different approach, but the other side is destroying the country, or treasonous. I mean, that’s — look it up. That’s what they’ve been saying
So they can’t be surprised when somebody suddenly looks and says, you know what, I can do that even better. I can make stuff up better than that. I can be more outrageous than that. I can insult people even better than that. I can be even more uncivil. I mean, conservative outlets have been feeding their base constantly the notion that everything is a disaster, that everybody else is to blame, that Obamacare is destroying the country. And it doesn’t matter whether it’s true or not. It’s not, we disagree with this program, we think we can do it better — it’s, oh, this is a crisis!
So if you don’t care about the facts, or the evidence, or civility, in general in making your arguments, you will end up with candidates who will say just about anything and do just about anything. And when your answer to every proposal that I make, or Democrats make is no, it means that you’ve got to become more and more unreasonable because that’s the only way you can say no to some pretty reasonable stuff. And then you shouldn’t be surprised when your party ultimately has no ideas to offer at all."
-President Barack Obama @ SXSW
What makes you think that's not the point?
You could apply something else, not what he's saying.I don't disagree with what Obama said up there, but you could easily apply it to the democrats as well, in many situations.
Hard not to like this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiBAPcgqpo0
I don't disagree with what Obama said up there, but you could easily apply it to the democrats as well, in many situations.
You could apply something else, not what he's saying.
No party is of pure heart, but the nature of their failings is not the same.
Maybe it is, but it's awfully short sighted, and IMO, dumb.
It shows me they don't want open discussion, they only want their views heard. They'll push opposites so far away that our options are extremists, and they'll do it so their views are the only viable ones. That doesn't show openness or intelligence, it shows forced opinions. There are too many people in the conservative and democratic parties like that, and it's not helping our country out at all.
It sure is helping America if it means that Trump rallies are getting cancelled![]()