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Dononvan Mitchell is Trash

I like how y'all are excusing Rudy for going public to complain about teammates

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you are outraged that Donovan supposedly leaks that he's unhappy.

It's amazing how you guys have completely lost the ability to use common logic. And once again, go watch a playoff game to see who plays hard and who plays effective playoff basketball.
 
dipship31 said:
Not sure what you're getting at here, but I'm only talking about when Rudy wanted us to be more like the Suns citing Devin Booker. He was in COVID protocol criticizing the team. I just didn't like the timing of that.

I don't know if he's speaking up or not speaking up behind closed doors. Just talking about this single incident.
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You are implying he never said anything to the team in private and chose to only attack in the most public way possible. You have no idea what he may have already said to all of them behind closed doors, and yes that does matter. It might have been a bad look but it also might have been his last-gasp effort to get the message across they refused to listen to already.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
In regards to Rudys comments, anyone who's covering their coworkers mistakes on an every day basis and then getting blamed for the loss of a contract is going to speak up. I'm certain he tried to do it in house but the team didn't respond like they probably should, so he called them out. The Booker comment was probably too obvious, but also there was a lot of truth in it. Honestly, I don't blame Rudy after he was basically blamed for last year's collapse and he was the only one giving 100% effort on the defensive side.
If the coaching and management were holding people accountable we never would have gotten here.
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This. The people truly at fault are those happiest to see everyone fighting about Rudy vs. Donovan. This is a management and leadership failure but they're more than happy to blame "aww shucks, the two stars just can't get along." It's a repeat of Greg Miller and KOC's ******** that ended up exploding in our face, with a convenient public debate as to whether Jerry or Deron were at fault.
 
LogGrad98 said:
You are implying he never said anything to the team in private and chose to only attack in the most public way possible. You have no idea what he may have already said to all of them behind closed doors, and yes that does matter. It might have been a bad look but it also might have been his last-gasp effort to get the message across they refused to listen to already.
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It doesn't matter if it's his first attempt or last attempt. You don't complain about your teammates in the media. You especially don't use individual examples of guys on other teams who are trying so hard while you are bashing your teammates in public.

I have been saying this for years - Rudy annoys the ever living **** out of people. Other teams and fanbases can't stand him. Would it be shocking that he annoys his teammates and they have stopped trying because they are over him?
 
LogGrad98 said:
You are implying he never said anything to the team in private and chose to only attack in the most public way possible. You have no idea what he may have already said to all of them behind closed doors, and yes that does matter. It might have been a bad look but it also might have been his last-gasp effort to get the message across they refused to listen to already.
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No I wasn't implying anything. I was talking about a one single incident when Rudy spoke to the media and I didn't care for how he did it.
 
LoPo said:
I like how y'all are excusing Rudy for going public to complain about teammates

BUT

you are outraged that Donovan supposedly leaks that he's unhappy.

It's amazing how you guys have completely lost the ability to use common logic. And once again, go watch a playoff game to see who plays hard and who plays effective playoff basketball.
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Does logic equal constant goal post moving and apologizing for Mitchell at all cost? Are you Ryan Smith's burner?
 
dipship31 said:
I just wish Rudy would've spoken up when he was actually playing opposed to wearing street clothes.
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dipship31 said:
No I wasn't implying anything. I was talking about a one single incident when Rudy spoke to the media and I didn't care for how he did it.
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You wish Rudy would have spoken up when he was playing. How do you know he didn't?
 
LoPo said:
I have been saying this for years - Rudy annoys the ever living **** out of people. Other teams and fanbases can't stand him.
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Why would other players or fanbases like Rudy? Give me one reason that doesn't say more about them and their frustrations.

This is an argument with less than 0 merit. Gobert's entire existence is stop the opposition with as little flash as possible. He's the best in the NBA at it, and it bears out both in advanced stats and the dumbest, most important metric: wins and losses.
 
LoPo said:
Nobody has moved the goalposts Cy.

Rudy is the only Jazz player that has gone public to criticize a Jazz player.
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Rudy did what was right. You're just mad he is right and he did it to your golden child. Take the planter's out of your mouth.
 
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