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Donovan refuses to say whether or not he wants to be in Utah moving forward

Jazz aren't going to trade Mitchell if he asks out, or even if he throws a fit, and I don't think Mitchell is the type of guy who would take it to the point that he'd start tanking and throw a fit. Jazz will convince him to let them re-build the team around him for a season or two.

Jazz are currently in the same situation that Houston was in when Harden was being asked to do too much and he kept flaming out in the postseason. Houston made a few good moves and opened a window to contend.
Donovan isn’t as good as Harden was though… and the moves they ended up making the last couple years are going to bite them in the *** hard as they try to rebuild. No thanks signing up for that.
 
I mean the Rockets are a perfect example of why this is a bad idea. Decided to break up two stars that didn’t get along…. Ended up giving up a ton of draft assets in a desperate move… and then Harden asked out a year later.

**** that… I ain’t signing up for the Rockets Westbrook year.
 
I mean the Rockets are a perfect example of why this is a bad idea. Decided to break up two stars that didn’t get along…. Ended up giving up a ton of draft assets in a desperate move… and then Harden asked out a year later.

**** that… I ain’t signing up for the Rockets Westbrook year.
We don't need to get another star when we trade Rudy. We need to get multiple good players with potential while also changing our system to reflect a more normal playoff defense.

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We don't need to get another star when we trade Rudy. We need to get multiple good players with potential while also changing our system to reflect a more normal playoff defense.

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Yes lots of teams with one all star and a bunch of good players will take down the teams with multiple super stars or multiple all stars… or we will end up being a slightly different version of what we currently are (on the high end) and Donovan still asks out. Or we end up being worse and Donovan asks out.

Basically the only scenario I don’t see a trade request coming from Donovan is he struggles and realizes we are his best chance for a bigger payday. If that happens we aren’t good.
 
Yes lots of teams with one all star and a bunch of good players will take down the teams with multiple super stars or multiple all stars… or we will end up being a slightly different version of what we currently are (on the high end) and Donovan still asks out. Or we end up being worse and Donovan asks out.

Basically the only scenario I don’t see a trade request coming from Donovan is he struggles and realizes we are his best chance for a bigger payday. If that happens we aren’t good.
It's a start. Playing the right way is actually the start. We need to play switching basketball with the ability to go small often. When Don can attack the rim in an unclogged lane, he's one of the best scorers in the NBA. He's one of the best scorers anyway.

We need to give that a year. A season. Next summer, we got money. We try to add a big piece. If next season ends in disappointment or we can't build any better, we then trade Don. We can at least say we tried. Don is still under contract for two years and is only 25. He has as much value next summer as he has now.

Maximize Rudy in a trade. Get two good starters. Keep trading. Go from there.

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What’s the best case realistic scenario for a Rudy trade?

Gary Trent Jr and OG Anunoby?
 
It's a start. Playing the right way is actually the start. We need to play switching basketball with the ability to go small often. When Don can attack the rim in an unclogged lane, he's one of the best scorers in the NBA. He's one of the best scorers anyway.

We need to give that a year. A season. Next summer, we got money. We try to add a big piece. If next season ends in disappointment or we can't build any better, we then trade Don. We can at least say we tried. Don is still under contract for two years and is only 25. He has as much value next summer as he has now.

Maximize Rudy in a trade. Get two good starters. Keep trading. Go from there.

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I’m fine with some of the ideology here but the issue comes when you realize we have zero switchable wings… Don is not switchable either… if we acquire some switchable wings we won’t have money the following year.

Donovan loses value one year from now for sure… we can’t just say with one year less on his contract he has the same value… it doesn’t work that way. Maybe he doesn’t lose a ton of value but unless he
makes a huge leap he loses value… and maybe significant value as people will think he’s hit his ceiling or see his limitations on winning without Rudy.

I’m fine with people saying we should retool… I just think we have to acknowledge the degree of difficulty and the most likely scenario is he still wants out.
 
I’m fine with some of the ideology here but the issue comes when you realize we have zero switchable wings… Don is not switchable either… if we acquire some switchable wings we won’t have money the following year.

Donovan loses value one year from now for sure… we can’t just say with one year less on his contract he has the same value… it doesn’t work that way. Maybe he doesn’t lose a ton of value but unless he
makes a huge leap he loses value… and maybe significant value as people will think he’s hit his ceiling or see his limitations on winning without Rudy.

I’m fine with people saying we should retool… I just think we have to acknowledge the degree of difficulty and the most likely scenario is he still wants out.
I think our system is a lot more flawed than people want to admit. It creates some fools gold for the regular the season but clearly fails come playoff time. Our #1 offense can't score. Our amazing defense gets torched.

As for switching wings, I think we can make due. We will struggle a little, but I think we will make our way. Guys like Rudy Gay, Jeff Green and others have tanked here because they don't adapt to our system. Who knows, maybe guys we already have will fair better in a normal system.

As for Don, I don't think he loses much value at all after a year as long as he avoids injury. NBA teams are notorious for keeping faith in players.

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