Don't Ask, Don't Tell is officially history!!

[Jazz Spazz]

Your decision of what the purpose of genitals, or a colon, or any other body part is as much a declaration of faith as any preacher proclaiming inerrancy for a scriptural work. There is no purpose marker, measure, or codifier. When two or three people see a different purpose to the same event, there is no way to objectively verify who is right and who is wrong.

By the way, there are far more species of living things that separate the transfer of genetic material from reproduction that have them in the same act. So, any claim the primary purpose of sex is reproduction needs to surmount that hurdle.

My declaration of faith was stated in the first post clearly, and if it took you reading the portion about body parts it took you too long.

I am talking life, and science here. How many Mammals separate the transfer of genetic material from reproduction as a same act occurrence?
How does Darwin's idea of Natural Selection fit in here? How are the most favorable genes going to be passed on, if not by copulation? How are Mammals, or Humans to copulate if their "reproductive organs" are not really for reproduction? Why would you have a problem with me saying the main purpose of reproduction organs is for reproduction, or the main purpose of a heart is to move blood, or the main purpose of a colon is to help, or allow, waste to be out of the body? Is that not science? Where did you learn your science if you think that is religion? It's like basic math. One plus one is two.

Even Darwin would laugh at someone who stated the main purpose of sex in humans is not reproduction. If humans stopped reproducing, there would be no humans, no matter what they did in their spare time. By the way, if you want to wait a generation to see who is right on their interpretation of the purpose of reproductive organs or the proper usage of them you can find out. The only way to get a little One Brow is to combine a female egg with a One Brow sperm, and hope things work out (assuming One Brow is male). All other activities will not result in mini-One Brow.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Again, all of the choice and consent or not or god and religion or not or blah blah ****ing blah is secondary; WHY ARE PEOPLE SO HUNG UP ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THEM?

For the record, I don't really understand the drive that transgendered people have to do or feel what they do, but I don't think that matters. They're human beings and even if I don't understand, that doesn't give me the green light to be an ******* about it. Something to think about, Christians.

This is called conversation. It is usually what people do when they at least want to understand the other person's point of view. It does not work well when one, or both of those people are angry. Why are you so angry and hung up on this thread when it does not affect you? And another thing... how do you know it does not affect me? You don't even know me and you are assuming this in regards to me and others.

This is a two way street here. I don't assume that all people who don't support my faith or religion are hating on me. Try it, it helps take the edge off the nerves.

By the way, Katie would not bring it up, if Katie did not want a conversation on the topic. Katie really has not been too riled up from this thread, so others might want to follow her show of calm here.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

hahaha this thread is so perfectly jazzfanz, my God this post is amazing

i don't even care about the fundamentally broken logic, it's all about how hard you try to come across as earnest and raw

like i'm crippled with pity here. you really, really care and believe everything in this post and it's the saddest ****ing thing to me

It's a capital G, just so you know.
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it.

 

[DutchJazzer]

My declaration of faith was stated in the first post clearly, and if it took you reading the portion about body parts it took you too long.

I am talking life, and science here. How many Mammals separate the transfer of genetic material from reproduction as a same act occurrence?
How does Darwin's idea of Natural Selection fit in here? How are the most favorable genes going to be passed on, if not by copulation? How are Mammals, or Humans to copulate if their "reproductive organs" are not really for reproduction? Why would you have a problem with me saying the main purpose of reproduction organs is for reproduction, or the main purpose of a heart is to move blood, or the main purpose of a colon is to help, or allow, waste to be out of the body? Is that not science? Where did you learn your science if you think that is religion? It's like basic math. One plus one is two.

Even Darwin would laugh at someone who stated the main purpose of sex in humans is not reproduction. If humans stopped reproducing, there would be no humans, no matter what they did in their spare time. By the way, if you want to wait a generation to see who is right on their interpretation of the purpose of reproductive organs or the proper usage of them you can find out. The only way to get a little One Brow is to combine a female egg with a One Brow sperm, and hope things work out (assuming One Brow is male). All other activities will not result in mini-One Brow.

THIS is the mother of all post

/thread

gayness sucks

okay on to some serious business f it's genetics. means a homosexual is defect. something that is defect is WEAK. if it is choice that said person is also weak going against nature, when something isn't doing what its supposed to do it is weak.

dont know how to restate this in other words. homosexuals, transgenders bisexuals, lesbians, asexuals, omnisexuals or whatever they wanna be called these days are weak(or defective or whatever you wanna call it).

to restate it incase you dont understand. a gun that does what it's supposed to do. now thats a gun i'm willing to risk my life with go to war with. would you go to war with a deffective gun?

on a side note hot lesbians rule .

 

[LogGrad98]

Your decision of what the purpose of genitals, or a colon, or any other body part is as much a declaration of faith as any preacher proclaiming inerrancy for a scriptural work. There is no purpose marker, measure, or codifier. When two or three people see a different purpose to the same event, there is no way to objectively verify who is right and who is wrong.

By the way, there are far more species of living things that separate the transfer of genetic material from reproduction that have them in the same act. So, any claim the primary purpose of sex is reproduction needs to surmount that hurdle.

Seriously did you take biology in school? Do you understand the nature of the development of biological structures in living organisms? The function of body parts is a declaration of faith? And what exactly does the sentence in bold above mean? Seriously, biology and english are not your strong suits are they?

 

[KatieMCR]

THIS is the mother of all post

/thread

gayness sucks

okay on to some serious business f it's genetics. means a homosexual is defect. something that is defect is WEAK. if it is choice that said person is also weak going against nature, when something isn't doing what its supposed to do it is weak.

dont know how to restate this in other words. homosexuals, transgenders bisexuals, lesbians, asexuals, omnisexuals or whatever they wanna be called these days are weak(or defective or whatever you wanna call it).

to restate it incase you dont understand. a gun that does what it's supposed to do. now thats a gun i'm willing to risk my life with go to war with. would you go to war with a deffective gun?

on a side note hot lesbians rule .

It doesn't get much more offensive than this.

 

[VINYLONE]

Katie, I think you're coming to the wrong place if you're looking for any sort of enlightened though.

 

[DutchJazzer]

It doesn't get much more offensive than this.

i'm sorry if i offended you. but if nature intended for 2 men to get in love and have sex wouldn't nature or evolution provide a way for them to reproduce?
so the way i see it its a defect if its genetics. if its a choice i see it as a defect in that persons way of thinking.

i'm sorry if i offended you, just trying to be honest. hope i dont get an infraction for offending you. cus being offensive gets people infractions.

if i get one see you guys in 7 days.

 

[Stickler]

It doesn't get much more offensive than this.

That's true, but in Dutch's defense, he seems a little more ignorant than malicious, on the ignorance/maliciousness scale... But who knows. I seem to recall him one time saying that the Jews...what was it? Killed JFK, I think...

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

i'm sorry if i offended you. but if nature intended for 2 men to get in love and have sex wouldn't nature or evolution provide a way for them to reproduce?
so the way i see it its a defect if its genetics. if its a choice i see it as a defect in that persons way of thinking.

i'm sorry if i offended you, just trying to be honest. hope i dont get an infraction for offending you. cus being offensive gets people infractions.

if i get one see you guys in 7 days.

Way to play both sides of the fence Dutch. According to you, being gay is not a choice, one's born that way. In essence, isn't that "nature" determining their "gayness." Having said that, didn't nature therefore intend for them to be gay, knowing full well they would not be able to reproduce? Or did God or Mother Nature or nature or whatever term you want to use just not think things through and determine the sexual path for the offspring without realizing in advance that they wouldn't be able to reproduce with one another?

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I see now. It's a defect. Bro, sorry but I see you as the one with the defect.

And oh yeah, since you've failed to respond to my earlier post, since I can only assume you don't have any intelligent answer, let me tell you that every single site I saw said that homosexuals, either gay men or lesbians, in studies, have shown to have higher iq's than heterosexuals or bi-sexuals. They've also been shown to have higher average salaries than heterosexuals. But yeah, us heterosexuals are the strong-minded ones.

<awaiting obvious reply about willpower, discipline, and impulse control>

Dutch, by chance did you too try out for the role Chris Cooper won for the film American Beauty?

 

[DutchJazzer]

Way to play both sides of the fence Dutch. According to you, being gay is not a choice, one's born that way. In essence, isn't that "nature" determining their "gayness." Having said that, didn't nature therefore intend for them to be gay, knowing full well they would not be able to reproduce? Or did God or Mother Nature or nature or whatever term you want to use just not think things through and determine the sexual path for the offspring without realizing in advance that they wouldn't be able to reproduce with one another?

Oh wait, I'm sorry. I see now. It's a defect. Bro, sorry but I see you as the one with the defect.

And oh yeah, since you've failed to respond to my earlier post, since I can only assume you don't have any intelligent answer, let me tell you that every single site I saw said that homosexuals, either gay men or lesbians, in studies, have shown to have higher iq's than heterosexuals or bi-sexuals. They've also been shown to have higher average salaries than heterosexuals. But yeah, us heterosexuals are the strong-minded ones.

<awaiting obvious reply about willpower, discipline, and impulse control>

Dutch, by chance did you too try out for the role Chris Cooper won for the film American Beauty?

just saying whetter we go with homosexuality is a choice. that said person is weak. wether we go with the argument thats genetic. that said person is also weak cus its a genetic defect.

i still believe that being gay is a choice and not genetics

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

just saying whetter we go with homosexuality is a choice. that said person is weak. wether we go with the argument thats genetic. that said person is also weak cus its a genetic defect.

i still believe that being gay is a choice and not genetics

So following that same logic, you're simply choosing to be a moran?