Doufos is gone
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TheMulletMutilator
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Or just a carton of Marlboros.
SLT: "O’Connor suggested that trading Koufos increases the likelihood the Jazz will bring back Kyrylo Fesenko as a restricted free agent." Looks like Jazz like Fess more. Otherwise they could have just rescinded Fess' QO and kept Koufos. Anything above a mil a year for Fess though would be overpaying. He is a 3d stringer, and should be paid as such.
Deron Williams
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Re: the TPE rules.
I think the Jazz are allowed to include additional players, but they can't take back more $$ than the value of their TPE. That is, even though they're shipping out the equivalent of roughly $14.5MM in salary ($13TPE + ~$1.5 in Koufos) they can only receive, at most, contracts totally the value of the TPE in return.
I think the Jazz are allowed to include additional players, but they can't take back more $$ than the value of their TPE. That is, even though they're shipping out the equivalent of roughly $14.5MM in salary ($13TPE + ~$1.5 in Koufos) they can only receive, at most, contracts totally the value of the TPE in return.
I'd go up to 1.5 million pretty easily if I were the Jazz, maybe even 2 million, but your point is valid. Jazz definitely must have liked Fes more. And frankly, I agree with them.
One thing I really like about this deal is that it sends a very clear message to other teams that might be thinking of making an offer to Fes: "He's our guy, we will definitely match your offer." I think that will discourage a lot of offers he may have gotten. In my opinion the only way Fes doesn't come back is if he gets a ridiculous offer like Matthews did. (Ridiculous for Fes would be anything over ~3 million and/or anything over 2 years.)
With Jazz being over tax and paying double, 1 mil salary IS 2 mil for Miller.
Darkwing Duck
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I'd personally go no higher than Koufos' contract.
Agreed 100%. In fact, Jazz may be thinking they can go lower (but perhaps multi year deal: first year .9 mil, second year 1 mil), which may explain why the made Wolves take on Koufos, even though Wolves did not want to. Well that and they may like Fess more.
billyshelby
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For what it's worth, reports are that Minnesota is looking to ship Koufos. In other words, KOC wanted him off the cap, not Minnesota wanting Koufos.
Darkwing Duck
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Doesn't make sense to me. They need roster filler. Decline the option and he's done after this year at 1.2 M.
Pastramiking
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While I like Jefferson and think he is the taller, younger Boozer, I think the Jazz gave up too much for him. They are in essence giving up 3 first round draft picks for a player that Minnesota was desperately looking to give up. The trade excpetion plus 2 drafts picks or 1 pick plus Koufos would and should have been enough. I think this was going to be Koufos' year, as he played well in the Summer League and looked like he was finally merging his flashes of brilliance from his rookie year with his more muscular NBA body. I think he could have been part of Utah's rotation this season especially with Okur out for much of the first half of the season. If Koufus wasn't in the deal, I would have given this trade an A. With him in the deal, I give it a B-, as I think Utah gave up one piece too much.
Kyoto
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With the way the Jazz draft, and the position that they would potentially pick at, we just traded away 3 players that might make another teams squad as a backup for Al Jefferson.
The trade exception was a throw-in from Chicago, something we only got to use. So the trade exception was going to be used anyways.