Draper Having Issues (and other Utah housing/flooding related issues)

[LogGrad98]

Almost. It’s on the north east side of suncrest in the new Edge development called “Hidden Canyon.” If you’re coming up from the Utah County side then it’s the first right once you’re leveling off at suncrest. There’s that huge LDS church on your left.
If you’re driving from the SL county side, you’ll just hang a left at the church.

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To be fair "a huge LDS church on your left" describes 75% of all corners in Utah.

 

[Gameface]

To be fair "a huge LDS church on your left" describes 75% of all corners in Utah.

I was thinking the same thing. I have been in places where I'm at a bit of elevation above a large neighborhood and I can count half a dozen churches in less than a few square miles. There are probably more LDS churches in Utah than gas stations.

 

[LogGrad98]

I was thinking the same thing. I have been in places where I'm at a bit of elevation above a large neighborhood and I can count half a dozen churches in less than a few square miles. There are probably more LDS churches in Utah than gas stations.

Damn near the Mormon Starbucks.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Same thing has been happening in the Ogden area, a part of Riverdale that is really in Washington Terrace. Part of the hillside is washing away and I think now there have been 5 homes lost total.

“Heartbreaking”: Three homes demolished two years after Riverdale landslide

RIVERDALE (ABC 4 News) – Three homes atop a landslide affected hill are now destroyed, falling victim not to the slide but to the wrecking ball. The home at 4887 South 600 is the l…

www.abc4.com

That one's a complicated issue and nothing to do with the homebuilder since the houses there I think are same age as every other house in the Terrace. I think someone I went to high school with either lost one of those houses or is next door. Don't remember. I just moved, but I lived just a few blocks away from that area.

 

[LogGrad98]

That one's a complicated issue and nothing to do with the homebuilder since the houses there I think are same age as every other house in the Terrace. I think someone I went to high school with either lost one of those houses or is next door. Don't remember. I just moved, but I lived just a few blocks away from that area.

Yeah it isn't the builder, but similar outcome. It is that hillside is basically a sand bank and it has been eroding away for decades.

 

[Jason]

Ah, okay. Didn’t know if it was more than that and the Construction company is run by known scumbags who really cut corners. Or edges even.

https://www.edgehomes.com/

 

[Gameface]

https://www.edgehomes.com/

They do brag about their open floor plans right on their website

 

[Keefe]

How is this not a builder issue? They decided to build upon suspect land.

I’m not absolving the buyer from realizing the land was susceptible but like wtf…a builder knows his grounds and where he’s building. Not sure he/she is not pretty damn liable.

 

[bigb]

How is this not a builder issue? They decided to build upon suspect land.

I’m not absolving the buyer from realizing the land was susceptible but like wtf…a builder knows his grounds and where he’s building. Not sure he/she is not pretty damn liable.

And the engineers. And the city.

 

[LogGrad98]

How is this not a builder issue? They decided to build upon suspect land.

I’m not absolving the buyer from realizing the land was susceptible but like wtf…a builder knows his grounds and where he’s building. Not sure he/she is not pretty damn liable.

Yeah but without the city or builder pointing it out most buyers won't have a clue.

 

[The Thriller]

I thought this story was interesting. Basically, Draper city can’t deny developers the ability to develop. I guess mindlessly voting into the legislature land developers wasn’t a great idea?

A Utah geologist warned of a Draper home collapse in 2010. Robert Gehrke explains how the Legislature let it happen.

The Draper home that slid into a ravine last week was built in an area historically prone to landslides. But cities have been limited by the Legislature and the courts from taking common-sense steps to try to protect residents and prevent future collapses.

www.sltrib.com

Still, these projects keep getting built, in large part because the Legislature — which is totally dominated by developers and real estate interests — and the courts have made it almost impossible for cities to say no, or to even impose safety conditions on a developer.

On a previous project Draper City tried to say no to a developer and ended up getting sued, Mayor Troy Walker told me Wednesday. The court told the city that it either had to let the developer build or it had to buy the property. When the developer who built the home that slid into the ravine last week came to Draper with the project, the city could have resisted and lost in court again, or it could have let it go forward.

Moreover, there is nothing in Utah law that requires the seller of a home to disclose potential hazards, whether the home is built in a floodplain or on a sloughing mountainside. It’s buyer beware.

“This is a discussion we need to have,” Walker said. “The expectation of the public is that the government is protecting them with this stuff and the reality is it isn’t. We’re not protecting them because we don’t have the power to do it.”

 

[bigb]

I thought this story was interesting. Basically, Draper city can’t deny developers the ability to develop. I guess mindlessly voting into the legislature land developers wasn’t a great idea?

A Utah geologist warned of a Draper home collapse in 2010. Robert Gehrke explains how the Legislature let it happen.

The Draper home that slid into a ravine last week was built in an area historically prone to landslides. But cities have been limited by the Legislature and the courts from taking common-sense steps to try to protect residents and prevent future collapses.

www.sltrib.com

This is going to come across like I’m being an *******, but I don’t have another way to say it.
You seem genuinely unhappy with EVERYTHING going on in this state and country. Why do you still live here? Why haven't you packed up the wife and moved?
Genuinely curious.