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Earl Watson is better than Devin Harris

utahjazz107

utahjazz107

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He actually knows how to run an offense. The first 5 possessions in the first quarter = 3 terrible passes by Harris. Trade him now!
 
Harris is the better player. Watson may be better for the Jazz.
 
I have a feeling Watson is very comfortable in his role with the 2nd team and wouldn't be as effective as a starter.
 
bluenote said:
I have a feeling Watson is very comfortable in his role with the 2nd team and wouldn't be as effective as a starter.
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This is very possible.

In terms of looking to the future, I think we're learning that this rebuild project needs a pass first, prototypical point guard as opposed to a quick "scoring" one. Not sure how we're going to get a PG like that unless we draft Marshall...and I'm not sure he's worth a lottery pick, but hopefully KOC can figure that out.
 
Watson has at least shown that he loves this team and loves playing on it.

I thought it was ridiculous when Locke was asking every player specifically what they tried to work on during the offseason (I think this was on the radio) and Harris basically gave an answer like "why would I need to work on anything?", as if he's just accepted who he is and isn't working anymore to improve himself.
 
Watson and Millsap are the captains of this team. Officially or not, that is the reality.
 
utahjazz107 said:
He actually knows how to run an offense. The first 5 possessions in the first quarter = 3 terrible passes by Harris. Trade him now!
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At least Harris is trying to make the pass. I didn't see him ever trying to make those passes. Give it some time, Harris has the potential to be just as good as D-Will and he just needs to be synced up with everyone.
 
Watson cares and Devin doesn't. Simple as that.
 
I'm not sure Watson has the stamina to play 35 minutes per game. If he does then the two should trade roles.
 
As someone already suggested, Earl is the better PG and Harris the better athlete. Earl has far more PG skills than Harris: sees the floor better, far better passer, sets up the offense better, plays better man-to-man D. But his limited ability to shoot from outside probably limits him to being a backup PG, a very good one though. However, he could be the day-to-day starter as a facilitator on a very good team like Rondo with the Celtics. I'm all for trading Harris.
 
Watson and Tinsley are both better PG's than Harris, while Harris is the better athlete and draws more fouls going to the hoop. Being younger certainly helps. I would like to see coach Ty get Tinsley on the court more often; maybe tonight.
 
Ok trade machine geeks, is there any way we can use Harris or our trade exception to get a pass first PG who might actually be available?
 
I'm fine with a 50/50 split of PG minutes with Harris and Watson.
Last night for a bit in crunch time we did see both out there with Burks, but I think that was mainly under full court pressure and they wanted to make sure they got the ball up the court.

Personally I like what Watson brings to the team better than Harris. Watson seems to see where players are going in advance and gets them the ball in better places to score. He had a beautiful pass to Sap last night that Sap was lucky to catch because he wasn't even looking for it. Sap still ended up scoring on that play. The only reason we got 2 points out of that was Sap's hands and quick reactions, and Watson's vision and beautiful pass. Jefferson would have fumbled it, CJ would have missed it, Favors/Kanter and everyone else would have had to think and would have been covered by then. Maybe Evans would have been able to make the catch and score it.

I'm rambling, I heart Watson, and I heart Milsap.

The end.
 
Earl Watson is better in this crap system, sure, but at the end of the day it's a crap system that won't win a championship so does that really make him "better"?

This is like saying Tim Tebow is better than Drew Brees, if they were both put in a read/wildcat option in the NFL.
 
HeavenHarris said:
Earl Watson is better in this crap system, sure, but at the end of the day it's a crap system that won't win a championship so does that really make him "better"?

This is like saying Tim Tebow is better than Drew Brees, if they were both put in a read/wildcat option in the NFL.
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I like Harris.
That being said, if Watson makes the Jazz a better team when on the floor than Harris makes the Jazz, then Watson is a "better" player for the Jazz.
AI was a good scorer and an all star, but when he was traded to the Nuggets did he make them a better team? Just because you are a better player, doesn't mean you make your team a better team. When push comes to shove, basketball is a team sport, and teams that play as a team are better than the one on one teams. This is why Dallas beat Miami in the finals despite the huge amount of talent Miami has. This is why Denver has been a much better team after the Carmelo trade.

I like what Watson brings to the Jazz as a team.
I like what Harris can do as a player, and he also brings good things to the team.
It's okay to use them as needed in different situations to help the team win. They both bring different talents and looks to the team.
We have to accept what Harris can do, but it's smart to offset that with Watson.

Question for you all, and I don't know the answer but am curious.
Do the big men and wings cut more to the basket for Watson than they do for Harris?
Players know Watson will throw an alley oop, and they will cut to the basket ready for it.
What do they do when Harris has the ball? Where does he get it to them?
Is that when they look for the pass after they get ready in the post, or come off of a screen?
I will try to pay attention to that in the next game or two.
 
I'm almost ready to agree with this. The thing is, Harris just needs to play faster. It's like he's trying to survey the field when he brings it up. Just get the ball up, make the first pass, and get in rhythm with the whole offense. I think Harris can still improve a lot, but Ty has to crack the whip.
 
JazzSpazz said:
Question for you all, and I don't know the answer but am curious.
Do the big men and wings cut more to the basket for Watson than they do for Harris?
Players know Watson will throw an alley oop, and they will cut to the basket ready for it.
What do they do when Harris has the ball? Where does he get it to them?
Is that when they look for the pass after they get ready in the post, or come off of a screen?
I will try to pay attention to that in the next game or two.
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That may be a product of the players on the floor with Watson vs. Harris. It seems to me (keep in mind, I have had limited opportunity to watch the Jazz this season so far) that Watson is on the floor with the more athletic players: Burks, Favors, Howard. Harris is in with Millsap, Big Al, Bell. They may be the "better" players right now (with the exception of Bell, who needs to be put out to pasture), but they aren't exactly the slash type players.
 
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