Either Conley goes or DL you choose...

[Handlogten's Heros]

I think DL has done a good job of somewhat making up for his draft flubs but its also a reason why we had a depth issue. He also let Neto go so he could sign.. Nigel Williams Goss? I don't get it.

Actually Neto had a slightly higher cap hold so he cut him to clear the needed space to sign Bojan.

I would say maximizing cap space and general salary management has been DL's bigger issue.

We can all use hindsight to point at misses... but he drafted two all stars outside of the top 10. One in the late first round... the draft range where Jom is throwing a fit that its unfair to judge GS and Memphis for drafting poorly.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

yeah, cuz Mr. Handlogten wanna set the timeline to be 2013 and beyond, in which teams like Memphis, GSW and Spurs were constantly stuck with picks between #25 and #60. But they still managed to steal solid rotation pieces like Dillon Brooks, Derrick White, Dejounte Murray, and Kevon Looney. All are better players than a injury-prone Rodney Hood who we traded for a bag of chips. And don't even get me started on Bradley, Neto, Hanlan, Wallace, Bolomboy, NWG, ****

Wait... you snuck Looney in there... Really Looney is better than Hood... and Hood is injury prone but looney is not.

I mean these are the examples you gave as better... Jazz are very comparable... it likely means there are 20+teams that drafted worse... so DL draft record is not ****. That's all I'm saying.

 

[jom2003]

How'd they do with those picks?

They turned all those picks into Dillon Brooks, which is still better than all the non-lotto picks that DL's used. Not to mention the two back to back lotto picks in the last two years which they managed to get their franchise cornerstones in Ja and JJJ. If you let DL use those two picks who is to say that he won't select Bamba and Barrett?

 

[jom2003]

Wait... you snuck Looney in there... Really Looney is better than Hood... and Hood is injury prone but looney is not.

I mean these are the examples you gave as better... Jazz are very comparable... it likely means there are 20+teams that drafted worse... so DL draft record is not ****. That's all I'm saying.

Both Looney and Hood are role players in this league with injury concerns. But I'd definitely give Looney the edge because of his unique skillset that holds great values in today's NBA. A streaky bucket-getter like Hood who doesn't play defense literally comes out every year. But how often do you see a small ball 5 like Looney who could guard multiple positions on the floor?

 

[jom2003]

that is when DL started... if you go back 10 years like you did when talking about OKC drafting 3 mvps then yeah DL likely pulls a few more rabbits out of his hat.

Drafting 3 good players in 7 yrs is not a good draft record no matter how you look at it. Especially considering that we had 5 lottos in these 7 seasons. It's not like we are the Spurs or GSW that consistently stuck with picks in the late first or second round. Like I says, even the Suns that had one of the worst FO in the league was able to get Booker and TJ Warren with 2 late lotto picks. DL definitely underperformed given the number of quality picks he's had.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

They turned all those picks into Dillon Brooks, which is still better than all the non-lotto picks that DL's used.

Brooks is better than Rudy... interesting take guy

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Drafting 3 good players in 7 yrs is not a good draft record no matter how you look at it. Especially considering that we had 5 lottos in these 7 seasons. It's not like we are the Spurs or GSW that consistently stuck with picks in the late first or second round. Like I says, even the Suns that had one of the worst FO in the league was able to get Booker and TJ Warren with 2 late lotto picks. DL definitely underperformed given the number of quality picks he's had.

Yeah I mean the suns have never ****ed up a draft... oh wait they drafted Bender, Jackson, Chriss, and passed on a future MVP for a guy who is likely a very solid center but may never even make an all star game.

We didn’t always have picks in the past 7 years either... compare hit percentage and we are way better than a lot of the teams you mention.

 

[416Klawzz]

He hasn't had the same opportunities as Memphis at all... they had a top 4 and top 2 pick in back to back drafts. Memphis also whiffed on like 3 guys to go with Brandon Clarke (who is a very old rookie and may not have the ceiling you think).

What have the Warriors done? They whiffed on 4 straight first rounders unless you think Looney is the ****. Paschall is good but lets see how well he does on a team that is trying to win something.

There are plenty of reasons to criticize DL... draft record really isn't one.

He hasn't had the same opportunities as Memphis because he traded it all of it away for Conley. Stupid turd DL, keep selling us crap and Gayle keeps buying it.

 

[416Klawzz]

Yeah I mean the suns have never ****ed up a draft... oh wait they drafted Bender, Jackson, Chriss, and passed on a future MVP for a guy who is likely a very solid center but may never even make an all star game.

We didn’t always have picks in the past 7 years either... compare hit percentage and we are way better than a lot of the teams you mention.

Exum is still the worst draft pick of them all. Then he got the extension. Which gm is stupid enough to extend a bust ? DL

 

[jom2003]

Wait... you snuck Looney in there... Really Looney is better than Hood... and Hood is injury prone but looney is not.

I mean these are the examples you gave as better... Jazz are very comparable... it likely means there are 20+teams that drafted worse... so DL draft record is not ****. That's all I'm saying.

i've only mentioned 6 teams because i don't wanna be unfair and throw teams like Mavs, Nets and T'wolves into the mix.

If you think getting two all stars outside of top 10 are home-runs. what about getting a MVP caliber/potential all-time great with the 3rd pick? A Grand Slam?

Mavs also found a solid backup point guard in Jalen Brunson, and a functional PG DSJ who were just about good enough to lure the Knicks into giving them Porzingis.

And if you look at number of picks Mavs have had since 2013, i'd say they also drafted better/had a higher hit rate than DL.

Nets managed to steal Levert, Allen, Plumlee despite being ****ed by Billy King in trades with Hawks/Celtics/Blazers.

T'wolves as bad as they have been portrayed to be, actually did just fine in the draft. They got Dieng, Lavine, Tyus Jones,Towns, Dunn and Okogie. All are either solid picks that are fine being where they were, or "home run" picks that had significantly outperformed their draft positions. With the exception of maybe Shabazz Muhammad, who is more of a Trey Lyes-kind of pick.

Don't forget about the Wizards either. Since 2013 they've only had very limited number of picks but had a very decent hit rate. They got OPJ, Oubre, Satoransky, TBJ and Rui. All are gonna be starting caliber players in this league for many years to come. Some of them may make the all-star team somewhere down the road.

 

[jom2003]

Brooks is better than Rudy... interesting take guy

You know i mean Hood but sure thanks

 

[jom2003]

Yeah I mean the suns have never ****ed up a draft... oh wait they drafted Bender, Jackson, Chriss, and passed on a future MVP for a guy who is likely a very solid center but may never even make an all star game.

We didn’t always have picks in the past 7 years either... compare hit percentage and we are way better than a lot of the teams you mention.

Yeah that's why I said the Suns had one of the worst FO in the league and all of them got fired about a season ago. But my point being as bad as the Suns FO had been, even they've had home-run hits like Devin Booker. So DL drafting DM in the late lotto was great, but not something that's worth a pass. Or else the Suns FO should've kept their job.