El Paso Shooting

[Stoked]

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/07/us...ampede-trnd/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

False alarms in New York, Utah and California. Some thing else happened, like a motorcycle backfiring or a sign falling and people panicking and running, hiding and fighting. This hurts my heart.

 

[Red]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/war-of...cal-pols-heats-up-ahead-of-his-el-paso-visit/

 

[Miggs]

‘Murica.

 

[Harambe]

Not really. He left of many Muslim countries. Fact. If it was a Muslim ban he’d have included them.

Not saying he likes Muslims or hasn’t disparaged them. The ban wasn’t Muslim. Targeting specific countries.

He's a history of islamaphobia. Links provided. You're gonna have a helluva time demonstrating that it wasn't driven from hate of muslims.

 

[Red]

Defending the indefensible. It's cowardly, and it's wrong:

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/4...on-trump-administration-to-stop-using-fear-to

A former white supremacist turned anti-hate activist is calling on the Trump administration to stop using fear to motivate people following a pair of mass shootings that shocked the nation over the weekend, saying the rhetoric is similar to that used among white nationalists.

"What's really important for the government to do, first of all, is to stop espousing rhetoric that strikes chords with people who are afraid of immigrants," Arno Michaelis said in an appearance on Hill.TV on Tuesday.

"It's a really bad policy to use fear to motivate people, to try to get policy passed," Michaelis continued. "I don't think we want to be a society that's driven by fear and when there's constant talk of our country being 'invaded' - and even the word 'infested' has been used - those are word-for-word what [was] in the manifesto of this El Paso shooter."

"There has to be some responsibility in that regard," he added.

 

[Stoked]

He's a history of islamaphobia. Links provided. You're gonna have a helluva time demonstrating that it wasn't driven from hate of muslims.

I’m not trying to demonstrate that. I Don’t find this argument to be compelling for this discussion. I’m sure he does think disparagingly of muslims. But He didn’t ban all Muslims, he banned specific targeted countries. You won’t agree and that’s fine but it wasn’t a Muslim ban. And I don’t find arguments saying it was to be compelling.

I don’t really feel the need to rehash this yet again with someone else lol.

 

[Red]

I just heard Trump say to the cameras "I think my rhetoric is bringing people together" The cognitive disonance may yet burn out my synapses....

 

[fishonjazz]

I’m not trying to demonstrate that. I Don’t find this argument to be compelling for this discussion. I’m sure he does think disparagingly of muslims. But He didn’t ban all Muslims, he banned specific targeted countries. You won’t agree and that’s fine but it wasn’t a Muslim ban. And I don’t find arguments saying it was to be compelling.

I don’t really feel the need to rehash this yet again with someone else lol.

I don't think he is saying it was a Muslim ban. I think he is speculating that Trump hates Muslims based off his words and actions. Pretty decent assumption.

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[Stoked]

I don't think he is saying it was a Muslim ban. I think he is speculating that Trump hates Muslims based off his words and actions. Pretty decent assumption.

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And that’s something I never contested or argued.

 

[Harambe]

I’m not trying to demonstrate that. I Don’t find this argument to be compelling for this discussion. I’m sure he does think disparagingly of muslims. But He didn’t ban all Muslims, he banned specific targeted countries. You won’t agree and that’s fine but it wasn’t a Muslim ban. And I don’t find arguments saying it was to be compelling.

I don’t really feel the need to rehash this yet again with someone else lol.

Others do. People change, and that's accepted. He wanted a full ban in 2015, and he still does.

How do you get to your goal? Usually doesn't happen all at once. Baby steps, slowly but surely. He's on his way to it by any way possible.

 

[Stoked]

Others do. People change, and that's accepted. He wanted a full ban in 2015, and he still does.

How do you get to your goal? Usually doesn't happen all at once. Baby steps, slowly but surely. He's on his way to it by any way possible.

He can’t get to that goal if that’s his goal. The system safeguards against it.

It’s not a totalitarian regime. And no it’s not in danger of happening.

 

[Harambe]

He can’t get to that goal if that’s his goal. The system safeguards against it.

It’s not a totalitarian regime. And no it’s not in danger of happening.

People said we couldn't get to social security, or gay marriage.

We did.