El Paso Shooting

[JazzyFresh]

You mean, out of frustration that their gun laws do reduce shootings, but people ignorantly spew out statistics and pretend the laws don't?

7 dead, 34 shot in one weekend. Ignorance is not on my part.

For once though, once. Not twice but once, I'd like to see the anti-gun crowd blame the actual person that shot people instead of take it out on those of us who follow actual laws. Just once.

 

[Gameface]

7 dead, 34 shot in one weekend. Ignorance is not on my part.

For once though, once. Not twice but once, I'd like to see the anti-gun crowd blame the actual person that shot people instead of take it out on those of us who follow actual laws. Just once.

Go look at every single highly publicised shooting. I have absolutely never heard the argument made that the shooter is innocent.

 

[JazzyFresh]

Still waiting

 

[One Brow]

7 dead, 34 shot in one weekend. Ignorance is not on my part.

I thank you for acknowledging the statistics would be even worse without some level of gun control laws.

For once though, once. Not twice but once, I'd like to see the anti-gun crowd blame the actual person that shot people instead of take it out on those of us who follow actual laws. Just once.

What does "blame the actual person that shot people" mean, to you? Every action has multiple causes, including every mass shooting. Saying one factor contributes does not mean another factor does not contribute.

 

[fishonjazz]

Chicago laughs at this.

Prove to me that there would be less guns in chicago if there were no gun control laws in place.


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[fishonjazz]

7 dead, 34 shot in one weekend. Ignorance is not on my part.

For once though, once. Not twice but once, I'd like to see the anti-gun crowd blame the actual person that shot people instead of take it out on those of us who follow actual laws. Just once.

Its the shooters fault 100% of the time.

Now I want to hear you admit just once that if the shooter didn't have a gun then he wouldn't be able to shoot anyone.

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[fishonjazz]

Still waiting

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[JazzyFresh]

Still waiting

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So a criminal, a murderer, a guy who does not follow laws just as 80% of gun murders don't is going to suddenly follow laws. Ludacris. Borderline fairytale.

I don't want these people to exist. It really ****ing sucks that there are people out there giving good law abiding citizens a ****ed up rep.

Is the gun the obvious choice? Of course. But it's not me pulling the trigger. This is me sticking up for a constitutional right. A right that we all have and is right in the main foundation of this country. It shall not be infringed. It's written right there in Washington DC.

 

[LogGrad98]

It's a sticky wicket to say that gun violence is absolutely reduced in Chicago at a result of their gun laws. Is there a definitive study that shows unequivocally that gun violence has been reduced by X% as a direct result of the gun laws there? I googled around and found several conflicting stories about this subject. Does anyone have a link to anything definitive?

 

[JazzyFresh]

Lol and that's all you have to say is 4 words a then continue to blame an intimate object. Kind of proves my point that it's something you never do.

 

[One Brow]

So a criminal, a murderer, a guy who does not follow laws just as 80% of gun murders don't is going to suddenly follow laws. Ludacris. Borderline fairytale.

When guns are rare, and it's hard to legally own one, they are much more likely to be caught just trying to buy a gun, if they can find a seller at all.

Is the gun the obvious choice? Of course. But it's not me pulling the trigger.

Nope, you're just an enabler.

 

[One Brow]

Does anyone have a link to anything definitive?

Since you can't run controlled studies on identical cities, there will always be uncertainty and confounding factors.