Embiid and Parker are Leaning Towards Returning to School
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green
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That long with the fanbase? One year? They haven't pushed their luck with anything. Their attendance is still good. Their ticket sales are still good. People are still watching on tv. T-shirts are still selling.
The Millers are making a lot of money this year off the Jazz. They haven't pushed anything yet.
Fishsticks
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Not so sure you are correct in that they are making money this year. Cant verify, but alot of empty seats and no media money are not good for small market teams for any prolonged stretch of time.
Bawse Dawg
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You suck.
Sexual Favors
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Agreed.
Contenders just don't fall in peoples laps, and those teams aren't built in one year. Jazz lucked out with Karl and John being infinitely better than their draft position, but that was the exception, not the rule.
If we don't get the player we want this year, I say we hold onto our guys, build an interim team, get a new coach and try to build up everyone's value. Really find out who to keep, and who not to keep, make some trades for good picks, and then go all in on the 2017 draft class. VJ King and Josh Jackson are already getting hyped up as future superstar SF's.
green
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Wouldn't that suck, if we let Millsap walk, went through an awful year, just to draft Millsap again.
Ha ha.
Crawlnstall
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The Millers are still making money for sure, but attendance is down a lot from previous years. According to ESPN, the Jazz attendance based off of % of attendance is 19th in the league at 90.7%. Not to mention lots of people end up leaving games early. Utah will still be a lottery team next season, but there has to be some improvement shown or fans will stop showing up. That's why I think the most important thing for the Jazz this offseason is finding the right coach, not necessarily the draft. A good coach could get a lot outta this team.
Sexual Favors
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attendance is still better than most the league, and there is revenue sharing...
green
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No one cares about empty seats. What they care about are seats sold.
The NBA is making money hand over fist right now. Why do you think over 800 million was offered for Sacramento? Owning a NBA franchise right now is like owning an ATM machine. The new CBA is a money making CBA.
Stifle Tower
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Home attendance is off less than 1,000/game. I don't know what the average ticket price would be, but I'd have to assume most of those would be in the cheaper seats. But even assuming 1,000 tickets for 41 games at $50/per, that's just $2M in reduced gate revenue. Throw in concessions, etc. That's not all that much, especially considering team payroll dropped WAY down from last season. Jazz are just over $57M for 2013/14, which is 6th lowest in the league. Yes, the Millers are DEFINITELY in the black this season.
I don't see why players slotted top 3 would go back to school. If basketball is going to be their profession, they may as well get the money and the pro experience sooner. I can't think of a top prospect who benefited by going back to school.
But I think this is the last year the Jazz are going to dip into the high lottery to pick up one more alpha player. If the Jazz get a better coach and rebuild their bench, which they effectively gutted when they gave up an entire 5-man unit last offseason, they'll add 15 wins automatically and be back in playoff contention.
It's so obvious the Jazz were built to lose this year. The argument was to let the young players play, but the Jazz never replaced talent for the other rotation spots that opened up when the young guns took the starters' minutes.
But I think this is the last year the Jazz are going to dip into the high lottery to pick up one more alpha player. If the Jazz get a better coach and rebuild their bench, which they effectively gutted when they gave up an entire 5-man unit last offseason, they'll add 15 wins automatically and be back in playoff contention.
It's so obvious the Jazz were built to lose this year. The argument was to let the young players play, but the Jazz never replaced talent for the other rotation spots that opened up when the young guns took the starters' minutes.
green
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Here is the real problem with not going into the draft: For someone like Parker or Embiid, their rookie contract is ridiculous. It isn't real money. It's pocket change.
They will make their money on their second deal. IF you wait a year, you put your second deal off a year. What happens if the CBA changes? What happens to your third deal? Look at Deron. If he had waited a year or two, there is no way he gets that extension from Brooklyn, costing him 80 million dollars.
That is what you give up when you stay in school a year. Had Deron stayed in school one more year, he probably would have lost 30+ million dollars on his third deal.
Is 30 million worth the "college experience"? Nope. They will declare.
They will make their money on their second deal. IF you wait a year, you put your second deal off a year. What happens if the CBA changes? What happens to your third deal? Look at Deron. If he had waited a year or two, there is no way he gets that extension from Brooklyn, costing him 80 million dollars.
That is what you give up when you stay in school a year. Had Deron stayed in school one more year, he probably would have lost 30+ million dollars on his third deal.
Is 30 million worth the "college experience"? Nope. They will declare.