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Enes Kanter: Immaturity and controversial path he took

Seeing yet another topic about Kanter on JF gives me stomach spasms every ****ing time. Let it go already.
 
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Hack said:
As bad as Kanter has handled everything, he was right about not wanting to play here. He wasn't going to get the playing time, and he knew it. We probably shouldn't have even drafted him. We didn't need another big man, and it led to the departure of Millsap. We probably should have traded out of the spot tbh. He made it clear he didn't want to be here. I'm not saying don't draft a player if they don't want to be here. Their value might be too high, and you just can't pass on it. But Kanter wasn't like a can't miss type of player. It was very risky. His athleticism was well below average and he was a big question mark. I think KOC probably felt a lot of pressure to draft someone because he sold off Dwill and we just won the lottery with the pick. But in hindsight it wasn't the right decision, and it could have been seen even back then. It didn't make sense at all to take him. Or if it did, then we should have been on the phones trying to trade Jefferson to clear up some room right away. But we didnt.


I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is that you have to be careful when building a team that you aren't treating it like video game where you can just load up on talent all the way down the bench. And expect it to work. Because eventually someone is going to be unhappy if they feel they deserve to play more. You'll just end up wasting assets. Which is what Kanter was, a waste of a high lottery pick. I bet we could have gotten more for the 3rd pick back then, than what we got for Kanter from OKC even after people knew he could play.


In this upcoming draft we face sorta the same dilemma. Adding a good wing player would be nice, but are we risking the same situation by having Burks, Hood, Hayward, Millsap, Ingles, and possibly another free agent clogging up the wing position.

It's possible. I just hope it's managed right. If we draft a wing, then we should be considering trading Burks or something in the near future. And/or don't even plan on signing Millsap and/or Ingles.

This year's situation is a little different though because the 12th pick comes with different expectations than the 3rd pick, so there's that aspect of it. But nevertheless, the 12th pick will be hoping/expecting to get some run.
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green said:
To be fair to Kanter, the draft sucks for the players and in some ways screws them over. Imagine graduating college, and instead of you picking the job you want, you are told, "hey, congrats, you are off to North Dakota for the next 4-8 or 9 years!"

That would suck, and I'd probably try to get out too. I don't blame Kobe for forcing his way to LA. I don't blame Eli for forcing his way to NY. Or Elway to Denver. If you can do it, do it. Kanter got his way. Let's see what he does with it.

Also, doesn't mean I don't hope Durrant and Westbrook leave and OKC ends up at the bottom of the West with Kanter leading them there.
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I agree with your point that the draft does that to talents, but it also brings some excitement to the whole thing like graduation or smth.

Also, the situation with Kanter was a bit of a hypocracy. I know he didn't want to play for Utah at the start. But after he came, he immediately started trying to become fan favorite and generous for the PT and role of vets and all. He could have opted not signing his extension after 2 years. Was that because he did not trust himself for having enough value to go where he wants? Probably. He was an immature kid and didn't know the first thing about many things and unfortunately mentored in a really weird way. But so many unplayed seasons and going into NBA draft, if a team picks you at a rare 3rd, they give you value and you will always be called as the 3rd pick instead of a 15th or so. It might not matter much in the later days of a player's career but it certainly does in the early stages.

So the attitude Enes put on while he was in Utah and the way he acts after leaving smells ungrateful and hypocratic. It is not about his age. It is about who he is. He sounds like he is really uneducated and inexperienced in life not to do crap like that. Life can be cruel to teach everyone about you can't take everything for granted though.

Either way, I was grateful for the trade and was hyped to see him play and succeed in OKC. But his last explosions and even bringing it to the city and the fans is not something I would root for, while I believe he owed Utah big for bringing him in and trying to mature him.
 
I think his (Kanter) opinion is irrelevant, everyone knows he's frustrated, immature, and young. His bad remarks have no authoritah...
 
Hack said:
As bad as Kanter has handled everything, he was right about not wanting to play here. He wasn't going to get the playing time, and he knew it. We probably shouldn't have even drafted him. We didn't need another big man, and it led to the departure of Millsap. We probably should have traded out of the spot tbh. He made it clear he didn't want to be here. I'm not saying don't draft a player if they don't want to be here. Their value might be too high, and you just can't pass on it. But Kanter wasn't like a can't miss type of player. It was very risky. His athleticism was well below average and he was a big question mark. I think KOC probably felt a lot of pressure to draft someone because he sold off Dwill and we just won the lottery with the pick. But in hindsight it wasn't the right decision, and it could have been seen even back then. It didn't make sense at all to take him. Or if it did, then we should have been on the phones trying to trade Jefferson to clear up some room right away. But we didnt.


I think the lesson that needs to be learned here is that you have to be careful when building a team that you aren't treating it like video game where you can just load up on talent all the way down the bench. And expect it to work. Because eventually someone is going to be unhappy if they feel they deserve to play more. You'll just end up wasting assets. Which is what Kanter was, a waste of a high lottery pick. I bet we could have gotten more for the 3rd pick back then, than what we got for Kanter from OKC even after people knew he could play.


In this upcoming draft we face sorta the same dilemma. Adding a good wing player would be nice, but are we risking the same situation by having Burks, Hood, Hayward, Millsap, Ingles, and possibly another free agent clogging up the wing position.

It's possible. I just hope it's managed right. If we draft a wing, then we should be considering trading Burks or something in the near future. And/or don't even plan on signing Millsap and/or Ingles.

This year's situation is a little different though because the 12th pick comes with different expectations than the 3rd pick, so there's that aspect of it. But nevertheless, the 12th pick will be hoping/expecting to get some run.
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Good post hack
 
For him to bitch like he has after being drafted in a position to net him millions of dollars is insulting. Every day people "settle" while they lay the ground work for something better. It's called being a ****ing adult. You take your lumps and take the steps to make it possible to get to a desirable place in your vocation. It's not rocket science.
 
green said:
To be fair to Kanter, the draft sucks for the players and in some ways screws them over. Imagine graduating college, and instead of you picking the job you want, you are told, "hey, congrats, you are off to North Dakota for the next 4-8 or 9 years!"

That would suck, and I'd probably try to get out too. I don't blame Kobe for forcing his way to LA. I don't blame Eli for forcing his way to NY. Or Elway to Denver. If you can do it, do it. Kanter got his way. Let's see what he does with it.

Also, doesn't mean I don't hope Durrant and Westbrook leave and OKC ends up at the bottom of the West with Kanter leading them there.
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No NBA city could be as bad as North Dakota. TBH I haven't even been to North Dakota so maybe it's not even that bad to begin with.
 
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