Epstein is in Trouble

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  1. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/08/us/jeffrey-epstein-monday-court-appearance/index.html

    Basically, this billionaire was running a sex ring in Florida. In the early 2000s, one (underage) girl reported to the Florida police that she had been raped by Epstein. The police began investigating and found more victims. Epstein then hired high priced lawyers, namely, Alan Dershowitz, to his defense.

    Prosecutors then got the feds involved and they found even more victims. They even found that underrage victims were then paid to find more victims for Epstein to abuse and employ. It appears that some pretty important people were using Epstein's... Aw, how do we say it? Services? Dershowitch, Bill Clinton, and Donald Trump are all names that come up.

    However, before the federal prosecutors could level the boom, prosecutors negotiated a deal (without notifying victims) with the defense which called for Epstein to serve:
    • 13 months in jail (which he didn't even serve. He was released early)
    • Allowed him to leave the jail for 12 hours per day 6 days per week (what the hell?)
    • Register as a sex offender (thank god he had to pay some price for raping girls...)
    This deal caused a pretty big stir back then. But was shortly thereafter forgotten...

    Why is it coming up now? Well, it appears as if the prosecutor for the SDNY has a victim in his jurisdiction. When they arrested Epstein a few days ago they found CDs with nudes of underrage girls on them. A judge also recently ruled that the Florida case was handled improperly. So this leaves open the possibility that victims from the Florida case might be able to have their day in court and serve this monster some justice.

    Why does this matter?
    • Epstein is a monster. Finally justice will be served.
    • The prosecutor who gave Epstein his sweetheart deal in Florida is currently Trump's Secretary of Labor. Why did he give Epstein such a great deal? Why then did Trump award him to join his cabinet?
    • Epstein's sex ring could take down a lot of very powerful people in America/UK. Which, imo, good. Get rid of all these scumbags, no matter who they are.
    Examples:
    Prince Andrew (Andrew on the left. The girl in the middle was 15. The woman on the far right was Epstein's girlfriend, who actively recruited underage girls for his business):
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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/17/us/dershowitz-defamation-lawsuit-epstein/index.html
    Dershowitz:
    https://www.apnews.com/3d0490c6774048dc8a5f4fe80d0cf71f
    Clinton:
    26 times? Hard not to imagine that Bill didn’t “participate” in Epstein’s services. 26 ****ing times? Wow

    This quote is pretty nasty:
    Trump:
    Trump 2:
    One of Epstein’s Victims named Trump as her rapist:


    What do you guys think?
     
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  2. Heathme

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  3. Harambe

    Harambe Well-Known Member Contributor

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    Let's dig. Maybe see what the Thorn group has on him.
     
  4. JazzGal

    JazzGal Well-Known Member Contributor

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    This all came up again during Trump's presidential campaign. And few cared, either about the rape accusations or the fact that Trump admitted frequent partying where young girls were the entertainment. It infuriated me at the time. People don't really care about sex crimes as a general rule - a sad part of our patriarchal society.

    You can tell how convinced Epstein was of not getting in serious trouble over this. Naming your plane the "Lolita Express"? Flaunting it in front of everyone.
     
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  5. Gameface

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    Instead of defending Trump and/or attacking Clinton, why not just condemn this guy who did this? Other than that, instead of getting your hackles up, why not just let the chips fall where they may and insist that anyone and everyone that had direct knowledge of this be charged with a crime?
     
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  6. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Right?

    I consider myself above average when it comes to reading the news and I vaguely remember Epstein being reported. I didn’t remember his name but I did remember the Lolita Express. That’s what jarred my memory. I had to hear the name of his private jet to remember this guy.

    And I don’t even remember accusations of Epstein hooking Donald Trump up with underage girls for him to rape. Which is exactly what happened. I mean, it’s as clear as day, a victim filed a charge alleging that in Epstein’s web of slime, she was raped by Trump. Incredible!

    And for Bill clinton to use the “Lolita Express” 26 times? Okay okay, I understand you’re innocent until proven guilty. But cmon.

    This needs to be investigated and the pieces of garbage involved need to be taken out. These poor victims deserve justice.
     
  7. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Nothing to see here...

     
  8. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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    @The Thriller I agree this is huge. A couple of things you didn't even mention :
    From https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/09/politics/acosta-defends-epstein-deal/index.html
    "The Herald investigation said Acosta gave Epstein the "deal of a lifetime" despite a federal investigation identifying 36 underage victims. The agreement, the Herald said, "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe" and further granted immunity to "any potential co-conspirators" in the case."

    He got this deal even after 36 victims were identified??

    And the deal granted immunity to any potential co-conspirators? What the hell??? How is that even possible?
     
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  9. NPC D4617

    NPC D4617 Well-Known Member

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    Bill Clinton and the Democrats running under age sex rings.

    Im shocked.

    Censor anyone who brings up pizza gate.
     
  10. The Thriller

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    Wow!

    Good catch!

    36... just... wow.

    I don’t know if this would mess with possible prosecution of Epstein or or potential corruption charges for Acosta. But if it’s allowed, Pelosi should be on the phone right now ordering Acosta to explain himself before the House. Our lousy Sec of Labor is the jerk who gave this sweetheart deal. There’s some nasty corruption that needs to be dealt with imo. Methinks Acosta got something in return. I don’t want Acosta to just shrug this off like Conway did with her repeated violations of the Hatch Act. At some point laws matter. At some point accountability should matter. He shouldn’t be allowed to work in his cabinet position with this hanging over his head.

    Why else would you give such a sweetheart deal to such a lowlife? 36. Ugh.
     
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  11. NPC D4617

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    Liberal do gooders aiding and abetting super Rich pedophiles by supporting censorship of people who make wild allegations that someone like Bill Clinton might be participating in underaged sex rings. Go figure. These people literally stand in their own way on basically everything.
     
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  12. Gameface

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    Let's prove these charges and hold them accountable. Does that sound good to you , because it sounds really good to me.
     
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  13. One Brow

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    The allegations were that Hillary Clinton was running the sex rings out of a pizza shop, while it took a Republican prosecutor to cut Epstein his sweetheart deal.

    There is plenty of corruption to go around here, but it's standard wealthy, male corruption across the political spectrum. I've got no problem bringing down Bill Clinton in this (or any other Democrat), should testimony emerge supporting it. Will you say the same for Trump?
     
  14. Wes Mantooth

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    This is old (disgusting) news.
     
  15. Wes Mantooth

    Wes Mantooth Well-Known Member

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    Fixed.
     
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  16. Wes Mantooth

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    I don’t feel like reading all this but any word on who these underage girls were? I can’t see them being white girls. I could see foreign, underage Latinas or Asians.

    Also, one thing I’ll never understand. I may make crude comments about attractive females around here. Many of the pics I post are of young ones, probably 19-25 years old. But I’m not sure I could even get it up with one of them. Like, I guess if I got to know one for months first and there was obvious strong brains there, sure. But a one time thing? Doubt it. Even drunk, I’m not sure. Maybe a 22+ year old but probably not younger. Now move that barometer down to what? 13 year olds? Like wtf? Not only would there be absolutely nothing to talk about and would they look young and would their desperation reek of poverty and sadness but it’s just morally absolutely ****ing despicable. Like wtf?
     
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  17. fishonjazz

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    Hack trying to make something that is non partisan, into something partisan.
    I'm shocked.

    Good job Dutch jr

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  18. colton

    colton All Around Nice Guy Staff Member

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  19. The Thriller

    The Thriller Well-Known Member

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    Sigh

    Gee I wonder why... I can smell Acosta’s corruption from Utah.

    Anyone in Congress wanna stand up against this? I mean, seems to me like we have a nasty problem. We should be pumping funds into this budget, not cutting it. Seems like it would be an easy thing you could use for re-election, unless of course, you fear Trump tweeting at you for fighting against sex trafficking.... Anyone from Congress wanna speak out?

    Nancy? You good with this? Chuck? Mitch? Hello? Ben Sasse? Mitt Romney? Anyone???

    Can the House impeach Acosta? And if so, why the heck wouldn’t they? Seems to me like it would be politically advantageous and morally expedient to at least attempt to remove that disgusting man from Trump’s cabinet. If the Senate wants to keep him well let that be on their hands
     
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  20. The Thriller

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    He’s an interview with one of Epstein’s victims. I think she probably comes from a Latin background. But she did come from a desperate and impoverished background.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-jeffrey-epstein-accuser-he-raped-me-when-i-was-n1028011
     
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