Some major UK false in this post, but overall pretty good.
Eric Bledsoe
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Some major UK false in this post, but overall pretty good.
blackham9258
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A couple of years ago I saw Memphis pay $9M per to Mike Conly and I thought that was crazy because he hadn't done a ton I thought to deserve that. But yet he is averaging 14.4 ppg, on 46% shooting, 44% from 3 and he could score and do more if he didn't have such a talented offensive team. He is now a steal. It all boils down to what are you looking for? Does he fit your personality culture? Does he fit your style of player, work ethic etc? What does he forecast to become in 2-4 years and what do you need him for?
Bledsoe to me will always be a defensive stopper and a get to the rim guy. In a league dominated by athletic PG's who we have to beat to get anywhere: Westbrook, CP3, Parker, Lillard, Lawson, Curry, Rubio etc> I want a PG who keeps up and makes them work... and if I know he has a work ethic and a chip on his shoulder that his former UK teammate gets all the publicity don't you think his best revenge is to become the better player? I think Bledsoe is the type to improve his shooting every year, and give you max effort, defense and athleticism that make your perimeter D amazing.
Bledsoe to me will always be a defensive stopper and a get to the rim guy. In a league dominated by athletic PG's who we have to beat to get anywhere: Westbrook, CP3, Parker, Lillard, Lawson, Curry, Rubio etc> I want a PG who keeps up and makes them work... and if I know he has a work ethic and a chip on his shoulder that his former UK teammate gets all the publicity don't you think his best revenge is to become the better player? I think Bledsoe is the type to improve his shooting every year, and give you max effort, defense and athleticism that make your perimeter D amazing.
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The Eric Bledsoe Countdown
By: Jonathan Tjarks (Over at RealGM)
Dec 07, 2012 3:06 PM EST
This is a great article over at RealGM. I especially like the point about his wingspan... he is a freak athlete.
No player in the NBA has made a bigger leap this season than Eric Bledsoe, the Clippers third-year guard who has been dubbed “Mini-LeBron.”
However, his improvement has been somewhat hidden by Vinny Del Negro’s bizarre substitution patterns as well as a Los Angeles Clippers' team that goes 10 deep even without Chauncey Billups and Grant Hill. Bledsoe averages a little under 20 minutes a game, but in that time, he’s playing like a future All-Star. As a result, the Clippers could soon be faced with a salary-crunch situation similar to what happened with James Harden and Oklahoma City.
Despite being a five-star recruit coming out of high school, the uber-athletic Bledsoe has slipped under the national radar for most of his career. He was only the third biggest recruit in John Calipari’s first season at Kentucky, behind John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins. Once he got to Lexington, he was a clear No. 4 in the team’s pecking order after Wall, Cousins and Patrick Patterson, all of whom went in the lottery.
Bledsoe averaged 11 points, three rebounds and three steals on 46/38/67 shooting; respectable numbers for a freshman, but not enough to indicate he could transition immediately to the next level. Many were surprised when he declared for the 2010 NBA Draft, where he wound up falling all the way to the No. 18 overall pick, which the Clippers acquired from the Thunder in a draft-day deal. Nor did he walk into an ideal situation with the Clippers: thrust into a starting role as a rookie after the Baron Davis trade, then having his minutes cut significantly in his second year with three veteran PG’s -- Billups, Chris Paul and Mo Williams -- ahead of him.
The talent, though, was always there. At 6’1 195, Bledsoe is a eye-popping bundle of fast-twitch muscles who is almost impossible to stay in front of, especially in the open-court. Just as importantly, he has a monstrous 6’7.5 wingspan, which allows him to play much bigger than his size. So even though he has the height of a pure PG, his length and athleticism allows him to play as a SG, which he did at Kentucky.
This season, his skill level has begun to catch up with his athletic ability. He has always been lethal around the rim, but he has more confidence in his jumper this year, allowing him to finish on pull-up shots and be more effective from the charity stripe. He’s gone from shooting 39% from the floor to 50%, 64% from the foul-line to 79% and more than doubled his number of free throw attempts. While he still struggles with long two pointers, he’s improved his three-point shot (from 20% to 33%) and become more adept at attacking open spots on the floor instead of settling for jumpers.
Improving his offensive efficiency has made him a stunningly productive player. Now that he has a functional jumper, there are no real holes in his game. Despite spending a lot of floor time with Ronny Turiaf and Lamar Odom, Bledsoe is averaging 2.7 assists on 1.8 turnovers. Like Dwyane Wade, another undersized guard who uses an oversized wingspan to impact the game in a myriad ways, Bledsoe also rebounds (2.8), blocks shots (0.7) and picks up steals (1.5). Per-36 minutes, he’s averaging 19 points, five rebounds, five assists, three steals and 1.5 blocks. That’s good for a PER of 22.4, the second-best on the Clippers, behind only Paul.
And while it’s easy to dismiss those numbers as mere projections, for the most part, per-36 averages do a good job of estimating what a player would do with more playing time. If anything, Bledsoe’s numbers are understated, because he often shares the backcourt with Jamal Crawford, a ball-dominant player who makes Bledsoe spot up in the corner, the weakest part of his game. Like most young PG’s, he would struggle with turnovers if given the chance to dominate the ball for 35+ minutes a night, but he’s more than earned the opportunity to do so and grow from the mistakes he makes.
Unfortunately, that’s unlikely to occur with the Clippers. Del Negro isn’t a very flexible coach when it comes to player’s roles: he likes to have a “1” and a “2” on the court at all times. That’s why, even with Billups out and Crawford coming off the bench as a sixth-man, he’s been giving Willie Green 20+ minutes a night as the starting SG. That, in turn, severely limits the number of minutes Bledsoe can play, since Paul receives the vast majority of time at PG. So even though Bledsoe can handle the vast majority of NBA shooting guards defensively, he receives about as much playing time as Green, who has a PER of 10.8. It’s basketball malpractice, plain and simple.
On a side note, this is why I’ve always preferred Deron Williams to Paul, despite Paul’s superior statistics. Even a coach as unimaginative as Del Negro would slide Williams (6’3 210 with a 6’6 wingspan) to the shooting guard position in order to free up minutes for Bledsoe. The importance of lineup flexibility is severely underrated by most fans and analysts: would you rather have a backcourt of Paul and Green or Bledsoe and Williams? After all, how can Paul make a player better if the guy can’t play with him?
Paul is only 27 years old and is line to get a max contract at the end of the season. When you add that to Blake Griffin’s max deal, DeAndre Jordan’s $10 million a year contract as well as all the money given to the veterans they’ve added to their bench, the Clippers payroll is set to explode. Donald Sterling has opened up his wallet in recent years, but with the punitive luxury tax penalties in the new CBA, is he really going to want to give another big contract to a guy getting 20 minutes a night? Bledsoe will be a restricted FA in 2014, and if I’m a team with cap space, he’s at the top of my priority list.
Last summer, I caused a bit of a stir when I asked Russell Westbrook whether he thought Harden, soon to be an RFA, was a max player at a press conference. Many people looked at his per-game statistics and thought I was crazy, but if you looked at his per-36 averages, you knew he was in line to break out if given a bigger opportunity. I was saying that as far back as 2011, when I dubbed Harden (five years, $80 million), Ty Lawson (four years, $48 million) and Jrue Holiday (four years, $41 million) as three of the NBA’s most underrated players. Lawson and Holiday’s contracts are near the floor of what Bledsoe could make on the open market.
Since the moment he came to Los Angeles, rumors have flown about Paul’s impending free agency. However, as a superstar in a big market with elite talent around him, there isn’t much of a reason for him to leave. And while established stars get the page views, the best bet in free agency for franchises not located on South Beach, Madison Avenue or Ventura Boulevard is a young player with the talent to be one who just needs an opportunity. If the Clippers aren’t going to clear out money and minutes for Eric Bledsoe, someone else should.
By: Jonathan Tjarks (Over at RealGM)
Dec 07, 2012 3:06 PM EST
This is a great article over at RealGM. I especially like the point about his wingspan... he is a freak athlete.
No player in the NBA has made a bigger leap this season than Eric Bledsoe, the Clippers third-year guard who has been dubbed “Mini-LeBron.”
However, his improvement has been somewhat hidden by Vinny Del Negro’s bizarre substitution patterns as well as a Los Angeles Clippers' team that goes 10 deep even without Chauncey Billups and Grant Hill. Bledsoe averages a little under 20 minutes a game, but in that time, he’s playing like a future All-Star. As a result, the Clippers could soon be faced with a salary-crunch situation similar to what happened with James Harden and Oklahoma City.
Despite being a five-star recruit coming out of high school, the uber-athletic Bledsoe has slipped under the national radar for most of his career. He was only the third biggest recruit in John Calipari’s first season at Kentucky, behind John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins. Once he got to Lexington, he was a clear No. 4 in the team’s pecking order after Wall, Cousins and Patrick Patterson, all of whom went in the lottery.
Bledsoe averaged 11 points, three rebounds and three steals on 46/38/67 shooting; respectable numbers for a freshman, but not enough to indicate he could transition immediately to the next level. Many were surprised when he declared for the 2010 NBA Draft, where he wound up falling all the way to the No. 18 overall pick, which the Clippers acquired from the Thunder in a draft-day deal. Nor did he walk into an ideal situation with the Clippers: thrust into a starting role as a rookie after the Baron Davis trade, then having his minutes cut significantly in his second year with three veteran PG’s -- Billups, Chris Paul and Mo Williams -- ahead of him.
The talent, though, was always there. At 6’1 195, Bledsoe is a eye-popping bundle of fast-twitch muscles who is almost impossible to stay in front of, especially in the open-court. Just as importantly, he has a monstrous 6’7.5 wingspan, which allows him to play much bigger than his size. So even though he has the height of a pure PG, his length and athleticism allows him to play as a SG, which he did at Kentucky.
This season, his skill level has begun to catch up with his athletic ability. He has always been lethal around the rim, but he has more confidence in his jumper this year, allowing him to finish on pull-up shots and be more effective from the charity stripe. He’s gone from shooting 39% from the floor to 50%, 64% from the foul-line to 79% and more than doubled his number of free throw attempts. While he still struggles with long two pointers, he’s improved his three-point shot (from 20% to 33%) and become more adept at attacking open spots on the floor instead of settling for jumpers.
Improving his offensive efficiency has made him a stunningly productive player. Now that he has a functional jumper, there are no real holes in his game. Despite spending a lot of floor time with Ronny Turiaf and Lamar Odom, Bledsoe is averaging 2.7 assists on 1.8 turnovers. Like Dwyane Wade, another undersized guard who uses an oversized wingspan to impact the game in a myriad ways, Bledsoe also rebounds (2.8), blocks shots (0.7) and picks up steals (1.5). Per-36 minutes, he’s averaging 19 points, five rebounds, five assists, three steals and 1.5 blocks. That’s good for a PER of 22.4, the second-best on the Clippers, behind only Paul.
And while it’s easy to dismiss those numbers as mere projections, for the most part, per-36 averages do a good job of estimating what a player would do with more playing time. If anything, Bledsoe’s numbers are understated, because he often shares the backcourt with Jamal Crawford, a ball-dominant player who makes Bledsoe spot up in the corner, the weakest part of his game. Like most young PG’s, he would struggle with turnovers if given the chance to dominate the ball for 35+ minutes a night, but he’s more than earned the opportunity to do so and grow from the mistakes he makes.
Unfortunately, that’s unlikely to occur with the Clippers. Del Negro isn’t a very flexible coach when it comes to player’s roles: he likes to have a “1” and a “2” on the court at all times. That’s why, even with Billups out and Crawford coming off the bench as a sixth-man, he’s been giving Willie Green 20+ minutes a night as the starting SG. That, in turn, severely limits the number of minutes Bledsoe can play, since Paul receives the vast majority of time at PG. So even though Bledsoe can handle the vast majority of NBA shooting guards defensively, he receives about as much playing time as Green, who has a PER of 10.8. It’s basketball malpractice, plain and simple.
On a side note, this is why I’ve always preferred Deron Williams to Paul, despite Paul’s superior statistics. Even a coach as unimaginative as Del Negro would slide Williams (6’3 210 with a 6’6 wingspan) to the shooting guard position in order to free up minutes for Bledsoe. The importance of lineup flexibility is severely underrated by most fans and analysts: would you rather have a backcourt of Paul and Green or Bledsoe and Williams? After all, how can Paul make a player better if the guy can’t play with him?
Paul is only 27 years old and is line to get a max contract at the end of the season. When you add that to Blake Griffin’s max deal, DeAndre Jordan’s $10 million a year contract as well as all the money given to the veterans they’ve added to their bench, the Clippers payroll is set to explode. Donald Sterling has opened up his wallet in recent years, but with the punitive luxury tax penalties in the new CBA, is he really going to want to give another big contract to a guy getting 20 minutes a night? Bledsoe will be a restricted FA in 2014, and if I’m a team with cap space, he’s at the top of my priority list.
Last summer, I caused a bit of a stir when I asked Russell Westbrook whether he thought Harden, soon to be an RFA, was a max player at a press conference. Many people looked at his per-game statistics and thought I was crazy, but if you looked at his per-36 averages, you knew he was in line to break out if given a bigger opportunity. I was saying that as far back as 2011, when I dubbed Harden (five years, $80 million), Ty Lawson (four years, $48 million) and Jrue Holiday (four years, $41 million) as three of the NBA’s most underrated players. Lawson and Holiday’s contracts are near the floor of what Bledsoe could make on the open market.
Since the moment he came to Los Angeles, rumors have flown about Paul’s impending free agency. However, as a superstar in a big market with elite talent around him, there isn’t much of a reason for him to leave. And while established stars get the page views, the best bet in free agency for franchises not located on South Beach, Madison Avenue or Ventura Boulevard is a young player with the talent to be one who just needs an opportunity. If the Clippers aren’t going to clear out money and minutes for Eric Bledsoe, someone else should.
Zulu
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So what are you trying to say???
Good read.
Haha .. NO, of course not, because we're all just making fun of the Clippers' backup PG, right!?
blackham9258
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Just that he was a top HS recruit playing 4th fiddle to John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and senior Patrick Patterson and he still accomplished enough to go 18th overall. Then in his first year he started some only to see Mo Williams then Chauncey Billups and finally CP3 take over duties. Yet through it all he has managed to get on the court and produce. His per minute stats and per are off the charts. He has the length, athleticism and mentality to become a special player.
Or he is just a good change of pace backup combo guard.
blackham9258
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Hollinger's PER stats have been pretty reliable predictors of value and production.
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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How tall is Bledsoe? Also think his game matches Favors well.
blackham9258
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6'1" with a 6'7.5" wingspan
blackham9258
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Just finished watching the bulls clips game and the announcers mentioned it.... Bledsoe can get to the rim at will. That is what this league has become.... to some extent... which is a league dominated by playmakers. All the good teams have one: LAL-Kobe, NY-Carmello, LAC-CP3, SA-Parker/Ginobli, Westbrook etc.
You need to have a player who can create his own shot and shots for others with his athleticism.
You need to have a player who can create his own shot and shots for others with his athleticism.
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orangello
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Nate Robinson is good for only one thing in the NBA, making Bledsoe look big!
Brown Notes
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We've already drafted an elite rim crasher though. He sits cuz no mid J.
Seriously though how much better a prospect was Burks over EB? Maybe they'd trade them straight.
A great article on ESPN.
"The Cult of Eric Bledsoe"
https://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=truehoop&i=TWT&id=52402&w=1cewj
"The Cult of Eric Bledsoe"
https://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=truehoop&i=TWT&id=52402&w=1cewj
A great article on ESPN.
"The Cult of Eric Bledsoe"
https://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=truehoop&i=TWT&id=52402&w=1cewj
I was seconds away from posting this article...
I watched two games of his last night, well only the times he played. I don't think that I have ever seen anyone gamble so much on D, and as Arnovitz says in his article, he is usually fast enough to catch up if his man beats him. He's an incredible athlete, incredible! The defense is all sorts of screwed up in the second unit with all sorts of switching. He goes under on screens a lot. His BB IQ seems low, and he relies mainly on his athletic gifts; his first step and ability to make up ground is lightning fast. He is learning how to run a team, and in my opinion he has very good court vision but is not a very good passer at this point. Mo Williams can go from cost to cost faster than he can, and I'm not sure about his handle. Not a lights out shooter, but hits his freethrows at a clip better than Rondo. If we go after him, we send him to Washington to stay for the summer with a certain retired point guard to teach him everything he knows. If this guy has a shot as reliable as D Wades, learns how to pass better, and gets a bit more BB IQ, he could be really, really amazing.
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He sits cause his young, not cause he has no midrange j. But you are right that he would probably just sit on the bench here since corbin doesn't like playing his young athletic talent unless he is forced to.