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Something I was looking for, but not sure if I could 100% tell from this video:
- Does it look like he is moving better as compared to how he looked last year?
Also, just kind of curious:
- What position does he play for the national team?
Also, not sure if this is something that is identifiable from these type of games, but still curious:
- Has he made any progress in his dribbling/passing?
1) Definitively does, in my opinion.
2) In the national team he plays pretty much every position. Most of the time on offense he basically takes the role of SF or SG, on defense C or PF (ie as FIBA doesn't have defensive 3-second rule, he has been standing around near the basket on defense).
3) He has passed more than before, that is for sure, but his team-mates have most of the time failed. One could claim it is because he has given bad passes, while somebody might say it is because the other players in Team Finland are unable to hit the broad-side of a barn. Regarding dribbling, hard to say; he used to bring up the ball a lot with the national team, but now gives a fast opening pass to one side, and then runs to the weak-side; both Belgium and Poland had tag-teams glued on Lauri all the time, so this way he was able to open up the court a lot -> this is a clear change from the previous years. This tactic has then led to opponent teams changing their plan mid-game, which has led to Lauri being freed up (and this has happened pretty much at the same time as the opposing teams foul-limit has been reached, so he has got a lot more often to the charity line).
Last season Lauri was the 3rd on the team in both the total FGA and FGA per 36 (after Keyonte and Sexton). Lauri was the 4th in PPG per 36 after Sexton, Clarkson and Collins.
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Incorrect. He took more attempts per game than keyonte despite playing less minutes. Lead the team in field goal attempts per game despite being an off ball player. (Lauri averaged 14.9 attempts per game. Most on the team. Sexton was second with 13.8 attempts per game) Keyonte averaged 15.7 attempts per game per 36. Lauri averaged 17.1 attempts per game per 36 btw.
Nice try though douche.
Well, originally I typed "Last season Lauri was the 3rd on the team the total FGA (after Keyonte and Sexton)" and then added to that "and FGA per 36" and did not follow it with "(after Clarkson and Sexton)". I still fail to see how the fact that Lauri was still third in FGA/36 but behind another player changes my argument. Again, Lauri was third in FTA/36 and fourth in points per 36. That makes it pretty difficult to argue that he was the first option on the team.
As an aside, I will probably refrain from continuing this conversation with you. You seem to have very vague ideas about how regular people interact and I don't particularly feel like talking with someone who gives off a strong and convincing impression of having been raised in a barn.
I don’t think Tremendous Upside is that dumb, though I wouldn’t be surprised if I was wrong.
I think he’s just doing his pouty Eeyore sad donkey ******** like the little bitch he is.
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Again, incorrect. See total minutes matters to the discussion. It's relevant. When determining who the #1 option is, per 36 doesn't have much value.
How many teams play their number 1 option lower minutes or in the case of Clarkson, bring them off the bench?
If Svi played 5 minutes per game but led the team in attempts per 36 then it would be pretty silly for me to say he was the number 1 option right?
Lauri took more shots than anyone on the team last year despite not being a ball in hand player. That is the most important and relevant point in the debate. Him not being a ball in hand player yet still leading the team in attempts is telling. It means that they are trying to get him the ball. That they are forcing the ball to him. That they want him taking shots.
And circling back around to the topic originally being discussed (Lauri being the #1 option this upcoming year), what team do sexton and Clarkson currently play for? Lauri will be the #1 option this coming year like he was last year.
As for how I interact act with you, pretty simply solution. Don't act like a douche and the way I converse with you will change.
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Looks like you’re confused or something about this. Even though basketball coaches and team stat folks sometimes use per 36 min stats to compare bench players, they rarely use them for other things. They use advanced stats instead. That’s because per 36 min stats leave out many important factors (the impact of player fatigue, the level of attention a player gets, their position or role, how much they play against top units, etc.). Nowadays, we see per 36 min stats used perhaps most often by fans when they're trying to prove their favorite player is better than some other player.