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Evolution - A serious question.

On the important topic, I find Psych regularly funny but occasionally flat, when Monk ws often brilliant but somethimes stale.

All the mice have coats.

There are bald mice.

Their parents each had a coat. No new attributes...just changes to the color of one that already existed. Woopdeedoo.

What does "new attribute" mean, and why would a mouse have it? Are we back to saltationism (aka hopless monsters) again?

What evidence is there that fish came from "earlier sea creatures," that amphibians came from fish, that reptiles came from amphibians, that mammal came from reptiles, and that mice came from "more generic mammals?"

https://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-transitional.html

What early mammal did humans come from then?

We share an ancestral population with all primates, so you could call than an early primate. Before that, there would not be a name in the vernacular.

Our genome is 35% identical to a daffodil's but even a Darwiniac wouldn't say we share 35% of its external characteristics.

This actually helps my point. 35% is on the low end for eukaryotes, meaning we're not that closely related to daffodils.

It is just as likely that the similarities are proof of intelligent design or creationism.

I fully acknowledge the evidence is consistent with a trickster God who wants us to believe in evlution falsely. Perhaps Loki, or Coyote.

"In point of fact" the similarities that that you are so fascinated by look more like the progress of a designed object than the result of a series of lucky accidents.

The are sequences for the same protiens doing the same things. There is no progress involved.

You can see similarities in the progress from a black and white TV to a HDTV, from a one lane road to a freeway, from vms to gmail. All these are known for being the products of "intelligent designers."

All eukaryotes convert ADP to ATP in the same way, burn oxygen in the same way, etc. No progress there.

We recognize the black & white TV as being designed because it looks like other designed things.
 
There are bald mice.
What does "new attribute" mean, and why would a mouse have it? Are we back to saltationism (aka hopless monsters) again?

bald=hairless coat
You claim mice came from a "generic mammal." In order to go from a "generic mammal" to a mouse you have to gain new attributes or you are still a "generic mammal" and not a mouse.

We share an ancestral population with all primates, so you could call than an early primate. Before that, there would not be a name in the vernacular.

No, you claim we share an "ancestral population" with all primates. "Before that" ain't in the vernacular because it doesn't exist in the fossil record, and that is where your "predictions" (aka ridiculous speculation) fall apart.

We're not that closely related to daffodils.

No **** Sherlock.

I fully acknowledge the evidence is consistent with a trickster God who wants us to believe in evlution falsely. Perhaps Loki, or Coyote.

If God wanted us to believe in Darwinism he would have put some transitional species in the fossil record and put mountains of fossil evidence for all the random mutations that went wrong.
He probably has a good laugh that Darwiniacs continue to insist our beautifully designed eyes were nothing more than a series of random mutations.
All eukaryotes convert ADP to ATP in the same way, burn oxygen in the same way, etc. No progress there.
The are sequences for the same protiens doing the same things. There is no progress involved.

You mean like how a toilet or a window does the same thing in the same way in different designs of buildings?

We recognize the black & white TV as being designed because it looks like other designed things.

I think you are starting to get it now.
We also know coordinated mechanisms/systems that look designed don't just get that way accidentally.
 
bald=hairless coat

Having a coat made from hair, and a "hairless coat" (whatever that is supposed to be), is still an example of different attributes. Parents don't need to have an attribure for their offspring to have it.

You claim mice came from a "generic mammal." In order to go from a "generic mammal" to a mouse you have to gain new attributes or you are still a "generic mammal" and not a mouse.

Why do you think that is a problem? Children often have attributes that parents do not. My son has an autism-spectrum disorder, which neither I nor my wife have.

No, you claim we share an "ancestral population" with all primates.

So, you didn't read the link I offered, or didn't understand it, or disagree for reasons not based in evidence. Fine by me.

"Before that" ain't in the vernacular because it doesn't exist in the fossil record, and that is where your "predictions" (aka ridiculous speculation) fall apart.

What're the vernacular names for Palaechthon and Cantius?

If God wanted us to believe in Darwinism he would have put some transitional species in the fossil record

They are there.

and put mountains of fossil evidence for all the random mutations that went wrong.

That would be good evidence against the fossil record. Almost all the "random mutations that went wrong" would result in creatures that died long before being hatched/born. Obviously, Anansi is much cleverer than that.

He probably has a good laugh that Darwiniacs continue to insist our beautifully designed eyes were nothing more than a series of random mutations.

These would be the human eyes full of kludges and cobbled-together ideas? Or, were you talking about camera eyes? Those are certainly beautifully designed.

You mean like how a toilet or a window does the same thing in the same way in different designs of buildings?

More like how a fireplace does different things in a brick house and in a log cabin.

I think you are starting to get it now.

I've known for a long time that we identify design by comparison to other design. Of course, if you really want to allow comparison of designs, biological designs are incredibly inefficient by comparisns to humans. So, your designer is beomces the Incompetant Designer. That's why the ID movement is trying to find a different design argument. They don't wnt to believe in the Incompetent God.

We also know coordinated mechanisms/systems that look designed don't just get that way accidentally.

Actually, they can and do all the time. There is no design behind the water cycle.
 
Oh stop. Everyone knows that evolution is on par with the Atkins diet.
#longerfad

God created us and no amount of links can change that.
Btw, God created the links, indirectly, by creation of man in the first place.
#mindblown

Ever stop to think the reason their brains were the size of an orange was due to no light and no stimuli?
#dumbspelunkers
 
Okay, I have a serious question.
I don't get into science as much as I maybe should.

Can someone explain or link (God-provided) an explanation of infinite universe.
You know, the old kindergarten question about how does space neither stop nor go on forever.

I still don't know!
 
Okay, I have a serious question.
I don't get into science as much as I maybe should.

Can someone explain or link (God-provided) an explanation of infinite universe.
You know, the old kindergarten question about how does space neither stop nor go on forever.

I still don't know!

We don't know enough to answer any part of that question with any degree of certainty. As far as we can tell, it is flat and finite. I don't feel like explaining anything, but here's a link that discusses it a bit:

https://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-resources/universe-infinite-big-universe/
 
Thanks for the link. I will definitely read as time permits.
Until then, how the hell is space finite? lol

Why wouldn't it be? It had a beginning, didn't it? It is then of a finite age. And depending on what happened in the moment that followed creation, it is probably finite in size. It has been expanding like a balloon from a single point ever since.
 
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