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Extend Favors. 3y-45mil

I think Favors is an excellent human being, a solid basketball player, a gentleman, and a scholar. As much as I enjoy having him on the team, a 4 year, $45 million dollar contract would mean that our team is set as is. A contract like that would mean that we could not add another player as part of a core 'BIG 3' which has been necessary for most championship contenders. If I could have Favors AND Rubio OR Middleton and a Royce ONeal type player, I would go with Middleton. Same goes for Tobias Harris and a number of other players that I think bring 4th quarter clutch to Utah in a way Favors and Rubio don't.

This doesn't mean to take away from Favors as a player or a person but the cost to bring him back goes beyond his contract and ends up affecting our ability to really compete for a championship in the near term. For that reason, I think Favors will not retire with Utah even though I would enjoy watching him for years to come.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think Favors is an excellent human being, a solid basketball player, a gentleman, and a scholar. As much as I enjoy having him on the team, a 4 year, $45 million dollar contract would mean that our team is set as is. A contract like that would mean that we could not add another player as part of a core 'BIG 3' which has been necessary for most championship contenders. If I could have Favors AND Rubio OR Middleton and a Royce ONeal type player, I would go with Middleton. Same goes for Tobias Harris and a number of other players that I think bring 4th quarter clutch to Utah in a way Favors and Rubio don't.

This doesn't mean to take away from Favors as a player or a person but the cost to bring him back goes beyond his contract and ends up affecting our ability to really compete for a championship in the near term. For that reason, I think Favors will not retire with Utah even though I would enjoy watching him for years to come.
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Not true.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think Favors is an excellent human being, a solid basketball player, a gentleman, and a scholar. As much as I enjoy having him on the team, a 4 year, $45 million dollar contract would mean that our team is set as is. A contract like that would mean that we could not add another player as part of a core 'BIG 3' which has been necessary for most championship contenders. If I could have Favors AND Rubio OR Middleton and a Royce ONeal type player, I would go with Middleton. Same goes for Tobias Harris and a number of other players that I think bring 4th quarter clutch to Utah in a way Favors and Rubio don't.

This doesn't mean to take away from Favors as a player or a person but the cost to bring him back goes beyond his contract and ends up affecting our ability to really compete for a championship in the near term. For that reason, I think Favors will not retire with Utah even though I would enjoy watching him for years to come.
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Well said.
 
The Jazz Wonderbra said:
I think Favors is an excellent human being, a solid basketball player, a gentleman, and a scholar. As much as I enjoy having him on the team, a 4 year, $45 million dollar contract would mean that our team is set as is. A contract like that would mean that we could not add another player as part of a core 'BIG 3' which has been necessary for most championship contenders. If I could have Favors AND Rubio OR Middleton and a Royce ONeal type player, I would go with Middleton. Same goes for Tobias Harris and a number of other players that I think bring 4th quarter clutch to Utah in a way Favors and Rubio don't.

This doesn't mean to take away from Favors as a player or a person but the cost to bring him back goes beyond his contract and ends up affecting our ability to really compete for a championship in the near term. For that reason, I think Favors will not retire with Utah even though I would enjoy watching him for years to come.
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Fantastic. If a Tobias Harris or Middleton wants to come to SLC, count me in. But I'm skeptical. Lindsey is bidding against several other teams. Boozer was the best Utah could ever do, other than big name players on their last legs. And even at that, Boozer was a fairly unproven player and the market was just two teams: Utah and Denver. One team was going to end up with Boozer; the other with KMart.

I think the best case are players like Mirotic. In which case, Utah CAN afford to keep Favors. But I wouldn't extend him. I'd just exercise his option after Lindsey has gotten a "no" from the tier 1 and 2 FA's. Favors is the best backup center in the league. And we just saw when Gobert is hopelessly outmatched physically (which is alarming for a supposed DPOY), Favors can bring the toughness Rudy doesn't.

What really hurts is Lindsey's inability to draft good, young prospects (outside of Gobert and Mitchell). It's either a hit every three years or a complete whiff. That prevents him from bundling players in a trade. No one is going to give up all-star talent to rebuild around Exum, O'Neale, Allen, Bradley, etc.
 
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Jack Strop said:
I think the best case are players like Mirotic. In which case, Utah CAN afford to keep Favors. But I wouldn't extend him. I'd just exercise his option after Lindsey has gotten a "no" from the tier 1 and 2 FA's. Favors is the best backup center in the league. And we just saw when Gobert is hopelessly outmatched physically (which is alarming for a supposed DPOY), Favors can bring the toughness Rudy doesn't.
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I agree that Mirotic is probably the type of guy we can realistically get this summer. And that scares the heck out of me. If he signs to what he's making now, that's okay I guess. I would just hate to spend Favors type money on him and he declines rapidly due to age and limited athleticism. I'll be really interested in seeing how he does in the playoffs surrounded by all that talent in Milwaukee.

As for Favors, I really don't want to just pick up his $17 million option. I hope we can extend him to a smaller number. If we just pick up his $17 million option, that gives us roughly $13 million to spend to upgrade the team. It's going to be really hard to make improvements if all we do is dump Rubio and spend $13. Even if we use that to get Mirotic, are we improving that much?
 
Jack Strop said:
Fantastic. If a Tobias Harris or Middleton wants to come to SLC, count me in. But I'm skeptical. Lindsey is bidding against several other teams. Boozer was the best Utah could ever do, other than big name players on their last legs. And even at that, Boozer was a fairly unproven player and the market was just two teams: Utah and Denver. One team was going to end up with Boozer; the other with KMart.

I think the best case are players like Mirotic. In which case, Utah CAN afford to keep Favors. But I wouldn't extend him. I'd just exercise his option after Lindsey has gotten a "no" from the tier 1 and 2 FA's. Favors is the best backup center in the league. And we just saw when Gobert is hopelessly outmatched physically (which is alarming for a supposed DPOY), Favors can bring the toughness Rudy doesn't.

What really hurts is Lindsey's inability to draft good, young prospects (outside of Gobert and Mitchell). It's either a hit every three years or a complete whiff. That prevents him from bundling players in a trade. No one is going to give up all-star talent to rebuild around Exum, O'Neale, Allen, Bradley, etc.
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I think Donovan and Gobert make utah a better FA destination. I also think that times are changing as far as FA destinations go. Sure, new york has an appeal. But so does no traffic. Marketing can be done from a studio in Alaska so being in OKC didnt limit Durants marketability like before. There is a reason that the Lakers have sucked for years...

That being said, Utah needs to perform well and players will want to come. Is it a slam dunk? No way. But is it still our best shot at a trophy? Probably barring a slick draft pick.
 
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