Exum Finishes 4th In ESPN ROY Forecast

[stitches]

I posted this in the World Cup thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bX0ii6g6iw&feature=player_detailpage


Look at the 0:54 mark, the 0:57 mark, and the 3:54 mark. It's a mannerism folks, not a sign of his conditioning.

That's all good... with the exception that you are assuming he hasn't done anything physically exhausting prior to those moments shown in the video... and also and more importantly - him holding his jersey and shorts is not the only reason we think he's gassing - his intensity falls dramatically after 2-3 quarters of play. He practically stops driving, he's having trouble keeping up in D. In close ups he clearly seems like he's out of breath and struggling physically, etc.

In a way, his conditioning being a problem would explain a lot of weaknesses in his game, especially in second halves of the games. If he doesn't have conditioning problems, then our problems and worries about him should be much more serious.

 

[♪alt13]

There is also a huge difference between Australia and Utah that has a mean of 6,100 ft above sea level.

All the comments going on by people watching FIBA play is that he seems to get gassed very quickly. That is conditioning.

I see no reason he cannot have his conditioning ready to go by the time summer camp starts but will he? Seems like a fair question.

That's a clever way of exaggerating the issue. A more sincere way to put that would be: Slc has an elevation of around 4,200 feet.

 

[tleikheen]

That's all good... with the exception that you are assuming he hasn't done anything physically exhausting prior to those moments shown in the video... and also and more importantly - him holding his jersey and shorts is not the only reason we think he's gassing - his intensity falls dramatically after 2-3 quarters of play. He practically stops driving, he's having trouble keeping up in D. In close ups he clearly seems like he's out of breath and struggling physically, etc.

This is baloney ,watch him play defense against some of the opposing players fastest guys and Exum is in front of them with his hands up.Another baloney ,quit making up crap ,......he's having trouble keeping up in D...........he is moving as quick and as fast as all the players out there.

his intensity falls dramatically after 2-3 quarters of play. He practically stops driving, he's having trouble keeping up in D. In close ups he clearly seems like he's out of breath and struggling physically,

Well ,cant let you come here and make up stories .....If you pull up the stats of the other 3 Aussie guards ,clearly Exum is finding the hole much more than the others .Im just amazed you can exaggerate without any proof at all ,your take is false.

 

[tleikheen]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ho-would-be-better-off-on-another-team/page/3

2014-15 NBA Rookies Who Would Be Better Off on Another Team

Dante Exum, Utah Jazz

After selling himself as a point guard during the predraft process, Dante Exum was drafted by a team with his preferred position already occupied.

Now he's set to play off the ball—to his weaknesses as a shooter and away from his strengths as a playmaker.

“I think I’m still comfortable at the point,” Exum told Jody Genessy of the Deseret News following one of his summer league games. “I still want to get the ball in my hands as much as possible. I didn’t get it a lot in my hands these last couple of games.”

Exum would have been better off going to a team that gave him the rock and allowed him to develop as a point guard on the job—that's the position where his potential is highest. At 6'6", Exum's size, athleticism and ability to create off the dribble is what ultimately separates him from everyone else.

In Utah, he'll be losing valuable early reps on the ball to Trey Burke, whose ceiling is a good three stories lower.

 

[tleikheen]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...kies-who-are-already-showing-red-flags/page/4

Dante Exum: Positional Concerns

This red flag isn't really about Dante Exum as a prospect or whether it looks like he could be a great player. In fact, summer league showed that he could be a potent weapon if his perimeter shooting improves.

What we're worried about is the Utah Jazz's implementation of the youngster and how it could hinder his progress.

He spent a lot of time at the 2 spot in Las Vegas, operating alongside returning point guard Trey Burke. It was clear that Exum's not a natural fit as an off-guard, and he admitted it's been a difficult adjustment, per Jody Genessy of the Deseret News:

I think I’m still comfortable at the point. I still want to get the ball in my hands as much as possible. I didn’t get it a lot in my hands these last couple of games...With Coach’s system, it’s open, but there’s been so many times I’ve just gone away from the ball and let Trey take it.

The Jazz may work things out, but right now it's hard not to be worried about the role change screwing up his transition to the NBA. B/R NBA Lead Writer Jonathan Wasserman wonders if Utah is hampering the growth of its most exciting asset:

Is Burke, whose ceiling is a good three stories lower, stealing valuable touches away from Exum early in his career? By sliding Exum off the ball into the corners and on the wing, doesn't that diminish the mismatch his size, athleticism and ball-handling ability present?

If I'm the Jazz, my only concern is playing Exum off the ball hurts his development at the point guard position, which is where he ultimately holds the most potential value.

Are the Jazz mismanaging a potential star?

 

[Fishsticks]

The Jazz definitely are mismanaging him if they play him off the ball and only 15 minutes per game as others have suggested. He needs reps to get better and he needs those reps on the ball. Let trey play in the corner.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

At the end of the day, I don't care about any of his shortcomings. One thing comes to mind to me about him. His off the charts psychological testing/Kobe gene. If he truly has that, he will overcome all of these flaws.

You talking killer instinct? If so, don't get your hopes up. He hasn't shown anything close to having that yet. I don't think that something that comes and goes.

 

[eacioban]

I think Snyder will use them both as playmakers in some lineups, like JH is doing in Phoenix with Dragic and Bledsoe. I can Imagine a lineup with Burke, Exum, Hood, Hayward and Favors doing quite well in some situations.

 

[Stoked]

You talking killer instinct? If so, don't get your hopes up. He hasn't shown anything close to having that yet. I don't think that something that comes and goes.

What QuinSnyder is talking about is that all the teams that tested him those areas report that his results were off the chart. As in Kobe level fire.

So if that is the case then I am with QuinSnyders. Exum will bust his butt and gtet down his conditioning, shot, strength...

 

[Fishsticks]

You talking killer instinct? If so, don't get your hopes up. He hasn't shown anything close to having that yet. I don't think that something that comes and goes.

????the expert on Dante Exums competitiveness has spoken. /thread.

 

[b_line]

Those bleacher report articles looked really concerning. Almost like the jazz have no idea that exum might be better than Burke, despite being drafted four spots ahead of him in what was widely considered a draft that was head and shoulders above burke's draft. Thanks bleacher report, you never cease to give unbiased reports, covering the cold hard facts of the nba.

 

[Duck Rodgers]

What QuinSnyder is talking about is that all the teams that tested him those areas report that his results were off the chart. As in Kobe level fire.

Please explain how they test that. Because you know how you test that? You watch them play in games.