Exum Putting In Some Work

[elan_prodigy]

I don't really know what you mean by saying it was over the top. The reason why I used that phrase is because Dennis Lindsey used it to describe Ingles. Ingles doesn't have an agenda when he's out on the floor. He takes what the defense gives him and makes the right play.

Dante is not there as a player. He doesn't read the game well, and that is troubling for a player who isn't good enough to force himself on the defense. The reason why he disappears so easily and has ugly moments with the ball is because he commits to what he's doing before it happens. There's not a whole lot of read and react to his game. He has tunnel vision.

He is inexperienced, and he will get better, but you can only improve so much. His current skill and experience levels are huge obstacles right now.

Rubbish. The game will slow down for Exum, he just needs minutes.

 

[elan_prodigy]

I just think agenda was the wrong word to use. He just lacks a lot of experience in reading games involving 10 players on the court and is indecisive or overcomittal in too many plays.
Even contemplating thinking of him as an all star is the last thing anyone should think about. Just being an average starter would be fine. It's just such a bummer about the injury cause i think we would have run with him as the starter in 15-16 and he could have played through a lot of his garbage and really kicked on.

I still think that at a certain point when his skill develops and he gets enough experience and confidence he could be the type of guy who really takes off to a much higher level in a short space of time.

I think most of us agree that the short leash Dante has been playing with has also contributed to his indecisiveness.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I think most of us agree that the short leash Dante has been playing with has also contributed to his indecisiveness.

sure. It's like when your missus is nagging you while you're driving, you end up missing turns and making dumb mistakes that you wouldn't if she wasn't whining in your ear and distracting you

 

[KqWIN]

I just think agenda was the wrong word to use. He just lacks a lot of experience in reading games involving 10 players on the court and is indecisive or overcomittal in too many plays.
Even contemplating thinking of him as an all star is the last thing anyone should think about. Just being an average starter would be fine. It's just such a bummer about the injury cause i think we would have run with him as the starter in 15-16 and he could have played through a lot of his garbage and really kicked on.

I still think that at a certain point when his skill develops and he gets enough experience and confidence he could be the type of guy who really takes off to a much higher level in a short space of time.

I think agenda was the perfect way to use, because it is the exact way that the GM described another player. That, on top of his low skill level, is what is limiting him on the offensive end. He needs to improve upon his decision making ability and his skill level if he wants to see the floor. At some point he needs to be responsible for his development. Opportunity will come if he gets better.

Don't forget about the defensive end either. The shooting and ball handling may never get there, but his defense has to be good if he's going to make it in this league. His footwork and activity in the passing lanes need to improve as well.

 

[KqWIN]

I think most of us agree that the short leash Dante has been playing with has also contributed to his indecisiveness.

I think the bigger problem is decision making...not indecisiveness.

 

[sepanol]

I know its not the popular thought but if George Hill doesnt sign I'd like Exum to start. Draft another PG possibly, and keep Neto as 3rd string.

In other words I wont be devastated if Hill doesnt resign. I like Hill, but I worry about his durability, cost, and blocking Exum's development.

Although, Exum wasnt without flaws in the 2nd half I liked his game, and noticed his improvements.

Draft Jawun Evans, if you wanna start Exum.
But in that case we should make a majör addition to another position. Kevin Love maybe. Or a huge upgrade over Rodney like J. Butler.

We cant expect Favors and Hood to just come out and play like all star after such a bad year.

 

[sepanol]

I wonder how much work Westbrook or even CP3 or George or Butler are putting in. 2018 gonna be sick!

Nah, it is gonna be another incompetitive playoffs GSW domination year

 

[FalseFlagg K]

I think agenda was the perfect way to use, because it is the exact way that the GM described another player. That, on top of his low skill level, is what is limiting him on the offensive end. He needs to improve upon his decision making ability and his skill level if he wants to see the floor. At some point he needs to be responsible for his development. Opportunity will come if he gets better.

Don't forget about the defensive end either. The shooting and ball handling may never get there, but his defense has to be good if he's going to make it in this league. His footwork and activity in the passing lanes need to improve as well.

yet the Jazz drafted him know he was the rawest of raw projects ... and at some point they just have to play him a little more ? You can't improve court vision / understanding the flow of games without playing in games. Or trade him.

 

[Revolution 9]

Starting Exum next year would be taking a big step back. Start him when he's good enough to start, or if you have no other choice.

Like in his rookie year when we went on a big run to end the season....mmm

 

[Et tu Brute]

Is that possible? Of course it is. Exum becoming a stud is not the only path to challenging the Warriors.

It would be great if Exum became a stud but I'm not foolish enough to think that is the only way. That's what your question implies.

I think it actually might be the only way.

The Jazz lack a penetrator who can threaten the rim and get to the line.

They also need someone that can dwarf Curry and stay ahead of him. Also, he is the perfect switch defender. He could develop in a way that means he could switch onto KD and be a significant impediment.

How many players do you know that have that possible ceiling?

 

[Et tu Brute]

lol, not sure if serious. Why would our possibility of challenging Warriors depend on Exum? He is so irrelevant to our challenge that to even mention him as some kind of important piece is a joke. If anything having healthy Hill or other quality PG and Rudy being healthy would be way more important than whatever progress Exum will make.

I think what you say is definitely conceivable based on the evidence to date.


I also think your assessment is short sighted based on the evidence to date.

 

[Et tu Brute]

The PG/Wing argument is not important. If Dante is the starting PG and still sucks at handling the ball, he's barely going to have the ball. If he improves his handle he'll get the all more regardless of his position.

Dante will get the ball more when he's better with the ball. It wasn't beneficial to have him with the ball versus anyone else. There wasn't a wing or guard on roster that he was a better ball handler than last season. He needs to put a ton of work in at the gym to improve his handle, but he also needs to show some game sense. Dante doesn't seem to have a great feel for the game. He always plays with an agenda, and I don't mean that in a good way.

Let it go Trey.