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DownUnder said:
Utahjazz32 sounds like he’s about 15 years old but Rubashov is 45 year old masquerading in a grumpy 82 year old blokes body and should be taken very seriously indeed.

Happy Austrayah day you blokes... crack open a few tinnies for us
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Get that right, i'm 35 in a 95 year old's body.... Just rolled through the door, had a few cans today, couldn't really tie one on got work tomorrow.
 
Ron Mexico said:
They might play Simmons at pf more and more going forward. They have said he will move there sometimes when fultz comes back. But it is dumb, they don't chase Exum.

If Simmons can't shoot he can't play pg due to not being able to properly run a pick and roll. No team is successful with a non shooting pg. Those problems will get much worse in the playoffs where defenses and scouting step up and there are more half grind out sets.
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Simmons is the primary ball handler and the offense will run through him. It is not even an open issue. Whether you call him a PF or a PG is immaterial. It is the role that is important, not what you call it. Simmons will not guard speedy 1s, but that is on the other side of the ball and immaterial to this discussion.
 
Ron Mexico said:
They might play Simmons at pf more and more going forward. They have said he will move there sometimes when fultz comes back. But it is dumb, they don't chase Exum.

If Simmons can't shoot he can't play pg due to not being able to properly run a pick and roll. No team is successful with a non shooting pg. Those problems will get much worse in the playoffs where defenses and scouting step up and there are more half grind out sets.
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While I mostly agree with you I'm pretty sure there have been successful teams with non shooting point guards. Or at least one anyway.
Rondo won a championship and he was considered a non shooter iirc.
I remember people saying Jason kidd was a non shooter and his teams had some success.

Probaby a few others that I can't think of.

Your point is still valid though. It's extremely rare.
 
Seems like a lot of ppl in the media with a lot of access to the jazz say Hayward didnt like Exum that much. The Jazz, worried about losing Hayward, didnt always put Dante in the best positions to be successful. The offense Hayward liked and the one Dante needs are pretty different.
 
fishonjazz said:
While I mostly agree with you I'm pretty sure there have been successful teams with non shooting point guards. Or at least one anyway.
Rondo won a championship and he was considered a non shooter iirc.
I remember people saying Jason kidd was a non shooter and his teams had some success.

Probaby a few others that I can't think of.

Your point is still valid though. It's extremely rare.
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Rondo might be the very rare exception. Although he was a minor part of the championship team and had 3 HOF players next to him on the court. So I guess that is the key to having a non shooting PG is to have three very elite players to carry you.

Jason Kidd was never a great 3 point shooter but he could shoot it at a decent clip. He averaged 35% for his career from 3. The year he won the championship he shot 37% from 3 on the playoffs.
 
silesian said:
Simmons is the primary ball handler and the offense will run through him. It is not even an open issue. Whether you call him a PF or a PG is immaterial. It is the role that is important, not what you call it. Simmons will not guard speedy 1s, but that is on the other side of the ball and immaterial to this discussion.
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Then, ill use the term ball handler for your sake. He will need to play off ball and more in the post if he cant learn to shoot and his team wants to be successful in the post seaso.
 
Carbon13 said:
Seems like a lot of ppl in the media with a lot of access to the jazz say Hayward didnt like Exum that much. The Jazz, worried about losing Hayward, didnt always put Dante in the best positions to be successful. The offense Hayward liked and the one Dante needs are pretty different.
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This is the first I have heard of this, but I don't get local sports radio at the moment. Or for the past five years for that matter.
 
Carbon13 said:
Seems like a lot of ppl in the media with a lot of access to the jazz say Hayward didnt like Exum that much. The Jazz, worried about losing Hayward, didnt always put Dante in the best positions to be successful. The offense Hayward liked and the one Dante needs are pretty different.
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Bwahahahahahaha. So, what you are saying, is that Hayward “Deron’ed” Exum?

Bwahahahahahahahahaha. That’s rich.
 
WhiskyPriest said:
This is the first I have heard of this, but I don't get local sports radio at the moment. Or for the past five years for that matter.
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Same. I follow SLC Dunk and all the usual Jazz beat writers and never heard this.
 
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