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BabyPeterzz said:
Revisionist history. Anyone who remembers his play last year, just using the eye test, knows Mack was more respected as a shooter and playmaker than Exum by every defense. Neither were acceptable options, and I can’t fault Quin for picking the player people actually guarded.


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Baby you're so wrong. (I don't normally get to say that without fear.)
 
utahjazzz said:
If I were Dante I would say "###k the jazz " and go to sign
for another team. Dante would not want to have plenty of DNP~CD next to his name next season under Snyder's stupid coaching. Unless he wants more tortures from snyder, Dante should look for another team. If utah is going to match any offer by another team trying to sign Dante, Dante should just ask for a trade.
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Do it Dante go sign with another team. Then the Jazz match and Exum plays for Utah.

That's how this works. You realize that right @utahjazzz

Edit: I am going to laugh so hard at all of you that are either bagging on Exum or Snyder when he come back and he starts performing because he is healthy and has learned the things being taught that places him in a position to be successful.
 
LoPo said:
I still don't understand the Exum hate. He plays for our team. Give him a break.

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Agreed along with the Snyder hate some are expressing in an attempt to defend Exum. Kid will be much improved and that is a result of his talent and hard work as well as Snyder and staffs coaching and guidance.
 
tleikheen said:
...in the biggest game of his career against GS Exum showed what he could do
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Yeah. He waited until the end of the ****ing year to have that game. Where was that game in January or February?

I'm not anti-Exum at all. In fact, I harbor hopes that he will be able to come back to full health and have a great career with the Jazz. But all of this quibbling over Shelvin Mack betrays a serious desire to coddle grown-*** men who need to own their own careers.

Someone earlier in the thread insisted that there is no substitute for playing time, and that may be true. But there is also no excuse for not outperforming the players that are ahead of you in the rotation if you are more qualified and talented than they are. Prove it in practice, and prove it in games. If you deserve playing time more than the other guy, it should be absolutely apparent.

Exum didn't prove anything like that before the GS series. It wasn't apparent at all for most of last year. He didn't play well enough to beat out Mack. And the reason for that, in all likelihood, is that he wasn't completely recovered from his knee rehab until April. And what happened then? His play in the GS series happened, and it was clearly better than Mack. But that level of play was not available for the entire year. Pointing to Mack's mediocrity doesn't change that.
 
But you can't get mad at a guy who isn't being used correctly or not being "great" here in Utah. We have had a number of players who have gone on to be better elsewhere. Does that mean that Exum would? It's hard to say, but it isn't fair to assume that Exum isn't any good because he hasn't shined quite yet for us. If that was the case, Korver, Millsap, JunkYardDog, Kanter, DeShawn Stevenson, Koufus, and even CJ Miles weren't that good although they proved otherwise.

It's unfortunate, but we have mismanaged a ton of talent since the prime Sloan days when we used to get the most out of almost everybody.
 
I would say his play was decent to good from feb onward, i agree with most of everything else you've said. It will be interesting to see how he deals with this setback mentally, which is where i think he is frail. Mind you he's a young kid and all that so anything can happen, when he came into the league i thought he had a lot of growing up to do. Ive said before he should have gone to college.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Yeah. He waited until the end of the ****ing year to have that game. Where was that game in January or February?

I'm not anti-Exum at all. In fact, I harbor hopes that he will be able to come back to full health and have a great career with the Jazz. But all of this quibbling over Shelvin Mack betrays a serious desire to coddle grown-*** men who need to own their own careers.

Someone earlier in the thread insisted that there is no substitute for playing time, and that may be true. But there is also no excuse for not outperforming the players that are ahead of you in the rotation if you are more qualified and talented than they are. Prove it in practice, and prove it in games. If you deserve playing time more than the other guy, it should be absolutely apparent.

Exum didn't prove anything like that before the GS series. It wasn't apparent at all for most of last year. He didn't play well enough to beat out Mack. And the reason for that, in all likelihood, is that he wasn't completely recovered from his knee rehab until April. And what happened then? His play in the GS series happened, and it was clearly better than Mack. But that level of play was not available for the entire year. Pointing to Mack's mediocrity doesn't change that.
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He had other good games. He had a better game than that against OKC sometime around January or February. He had a couple times where he scored double digit points for 3 games in a row and then got hardly any minutes after that for a stretch. Any time he started gaining momentum he fell back in the doghouse for things that Mack was allowed to do all the time. Sorry but Exum was done wrong last year. Sometimes coaches can screw players up or hinder their progress by how they coach them. Last year was a case of that happening. I'm a big Quin fan overall, but he messed up on this one.
 
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