Game Thread Feb 25, 2023 07:00PM MT: Jazz vs. Spurs

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If they are doing thier best to win and they care about winning then it would make sense to play the best players the most. Especially when they are playing fantastic. Kessler played amazing. Not ok. Not good. He was fantastic. And he is by far our best center.

(Tried to quote hermanG but either the app isnt working right or my ipad isnt)

Clarkson on the other hand played like total crap. Stayed on the court all game doe.

You should apply to be a NBA coach

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

Vando now with 15 points (6-7 shooting) and 15 rebounds and a team high +14.

We honestly should have tried to keep him or at least get a better offer for all that we traded away.


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All these idiots that wanted Vando traded in a year or two will be whining about how Danny traded him and how dumb it was. For an entire month I was leading the charge for keeping him. I’ll be proven right soon enough.

 

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I was at the game Saturday. Clarkson was not only passive during the game, he was also very distant to his teammates when on the bench. Has he checked out? I just cannot see him wanting to come back next year unless he gets way overpaid. Its a shame since he is a good player.

 

[LogGrad98]

I was at the game Saturday. Clarkson was not only passive during the game, he was also very distant to his teammates when on the bench. Has he checked out? I just cannot see him wanting to come back next year unless he gets way overpaid. Its a shame since he is a good player.

He's been showing a lot of frustration lately. Hard to tell why exactly but part of it seems to be his own bad play. He has really developed a heads-down bull-rushing mentality and forces his way into the lane regardless of anyone else around him. Seems he isn't looking for his teammates much any more, and every time he gets stuck or makes a bad pass, which seems more often than not recently, he throws his hands up and shakes his head and just gets lost in the next play. He is letting all this get to him and get in his head. Where is the coach in all this? I would expect to see Hardy working with him to get him past this, but it seems like they don't interact much. I wonder if they shopped him harder than we know and he knows it and is showing his frustration, but no matter what happened he needs to get out of his own head and just play the way he was earlier, more within the flow of the game.

 

[Agent#00]

I was at the game Saturday. Clarkson was not only passive during the game, he was also very distant to his teammates when on the bench. Has he checked out? I just cannot see him wanting to come back next year unless he gets way overpaid. Its a shame since he is a goode player.

The Conley effect maybe? Then we traded Beasley and vando who where close to him. He does look a lot frustrated recently

 

[HermanG]

He's been showing a lot of frustration lately. Hard to tell why exactly but part of it seems to be his own bad play. He has really developed a heads-down bull-rushing mentality and forces his way into the lane regardless of anyone else around him. Seems he isn't looking for his teammates much any more, and every time he gets stuck or makes a bad pass, which seems more often than not recently, he throws his hands up and shakes his head and just gets lost in the next play. He is letting all this get to him and get in his head. Where is the coach in all this? I would expect to see Hardy working with him to get him past this, but it seems like they don't interact much. I wonder if they shopped him harder than we know and he knows it and is showing his frustration, but no matter what happened he needs to get out of his own head and just play the way he was earlier, more within the flow of the game.

Werent there some reports a while ago that we are looking to offer him 12-14M range and backup role?

That would get me down if I worked so hard for my first starter bag and wanted to stay and then I hear I wont be getting it here.

 

[HermanG]

The Conley effect maybe? Then we traded Beasley and vando who where close to him. He does look a lot frustrated recently

JC been around long enough.. I dont think trading people gets him down for so long.

 

[fishonjazz]

Hardy didnt cut all the bigs minutes in this game though. Gay played more minutes than normal. And he shot worse than kessler (4-12 and 0-3) rebounded worse, had a worse plus minus, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks.
Meanwhile kessler was amazing.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

If they are doing thier best to win and they care about winning then it would make sense to play the best players the most. Especially when they are playing fantastic. Kessler played amazing. Not ok. Not good. He was fantastic. And he is by far our best center.

(Tried to quote hermanG but either the app isnt working right or my ipad isnt)

Clarkson on the other hand played like total crap. Stayed on the court all game doe.

Kessler should play all 48!

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm sure Kessler finishing the game strong has nothing to do with him being well rested through smart substitutions from Hardy. Should be playing 50 mpg

 

[fishonjazz]

The more minutes for our best young players, the better! Especially when they are playing fantasitc. I agree. That was literally my criticism.

I wouldnt be mad if clarkson played less when he is sucking *** though. Probably never happen though.

I do agree that im nitpicking a bit though. 27 minutes is a healthy amount. I just really like Kessler and like watching him play. When he is killing it out there i want see it continue as much as possible.

I think hardy is a fantastic coach who is like most coaches and gives the younger guys a bit of a shorter leash and lets the older guys suck with little consequence like most coaches do.

Its not a big deal. I was just posting my opinion on things that i like to see. I dont think kessler not playing as much as i want him to is going to ruin him, the season, the team, my fandom or anything else.

 

[HermanG]

The more minutes for our best young players, the better! Especially when they are playing fantasitc. I agree. That was literally my criticism.

I wouldnt be mad if clarkson played less when he is sucking *** though. Probably never happen though.

I do agree that im nitpicking a bit though. 27 minutes is a healthy amount. I just really like Kessler and like watching him play. When he is killing it out there i want see it continue as much as possible.

I think hardy is a fantastic coach who is like most coaches and gives the younger guys a bit of a shorter leash and lets the older guys suck with little consequence like most coaches do.

Its not a big deal. I was just posting my opinion on things that i like to see. I dont think kessler not playing as much as i want him to is going to ruin him, the season, the team, my fandom or anything else.

Thats the thing I dont think Kessler was benched at any point. Hardy just changed rotations as he said.

Lauri played 32, least he has played since Jan 24th (outside of that Minny disaster where Hardy played end of bench big minutes).. KO played 23 and he has averaged 31.5 since the trade deadline.

It was situational and tactical, not performance related.