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So, the Jazz start almost every game by getting behind several points in the first 5 minutes, and end almost every game by giving up big leads in the last five minutes, and yet somehow the lineup that does both of those things is +9 on the season. Seems like perhaps that lineup does better at other points in the game and maybe shouldn’t be the starting and ending lineup…
 
Ujfanatic said:
So, the Jazz start almost every game by getting behind several points in the first 5 minutes, and end almost every game by giving up big leads in the last five minutes, and yet somehow the lineup that does both of those things is +9 on the season. Seems like perhaps that lineup does better at other points in the game and maybe shouldn’t be the starting and ending lineup…
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Crazy thing is, Rudy Gobert has been negative in plus/minus in 7 of his last 9 games…
The last 4 have been
-27
-5
-15
And -12 tonight

While Whiteside was positive in 8 of his last 9…
The last 4 have been
+20
+10
+19
And +17 tonight

Donovan positive in 7 of last 9

Something interesting is happening
 
jope said:
Crazy thing is, Rudy Gobert has been negative in plus/minus in 7 of his last 9 games…
The last 4 have been
-27
-5
-15
And -12 tonight

While Whiteside was positive in 8 of his last 9…
The last 4 have been
+20
+10
+19
And +17 tonight

Donovan positive in 7 of last 9

Something interesting is happening
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I wouldn't read too much into it. I think it's more a fluke than anything else.
 
jope said:
Crazy thing is, Rudy Gobert has been negative in plus/minus in 7 of his last 9 games…
The last 4 have been
-27
-5
-15
And -12 tonight

While Whiteside was positive in 8 of his last 9…
The last 4 have been
+20
+10
+19
And +17 tonight

Donovan positive in 7 of last 9

Something interesting is happening
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I would guess it's because Mike hadn't been shooting well and that end of the first quarter lineup with Gay not shooting well and Forrest and Gobert is pretty rough offensively.
 
Jingled said:
I wouldn't read too much into it. I think it's more a fluke than anything else.
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I’m not going to ignore it. Rudy admitted that he wasn’t 100% after the Lakers game. I’m curious where he is at right now. Maybe he’s still recovering, but I doubt it after the way he handled Dallas (his fourth quarter was a masterpiece.)

I was really discouraged to see how easily the Rockets repeated what the Clippers did last year (I only watched the 4th quarter and overtime.) This is the Teams/lineups fault, not Rudy’s, but Rudy deserves some of the blame. Rudy was indecisive at times and then forgot what he was doing on the last play of the game and dropped to protect the rim during the picknpop, allowing Child’s to get a shot off.

20 games to figure it out, or sure they are going to do it.
 
JFFR said:
I’m not going to ignore it. Rudy admitted that he wasn’t 100% after the Lakers game. I’m curious where he is at right now. Maybe he’s still recovering, but I doubt it after the way he handled Dallas (his fourth quarter was a masterpiece.)

I was really discouraged to see how easily the Rockets repeated what the Clippers did last year (I only watched the 4th quarter and overtime.) This is the Teams/lineups fault, not Rudy’s, but Rudy deserves some of the blame. Rudy was indecisive at times and then forgot what he was doing on the last play of the game and dropped to protect the rim during the picknpop, allowing Child’s to get a shot off.

20 games to figure it out, or sure they are going to do it.
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Actually I put that last play on the coaching staff. They still haven't figured out or taught or drilled it enough, how to switch effectively on smaller lineups. They just cannot crack that nut. So it ends up being up to Gobert which threat to cover since the coaching staff gives us no real defensive organization in those situations, and no one else can stay in front of anyone, or even bother them a little bit. Our group of dudes under 6'5" and slow of foot on the defensive end will always struggle against a bigger more athletic "small" lineup, meaning if you can field 5 guys that all play on the perimeter and are capable of slashing or passing even a little bit, we are cooked. It is what it is. And we will continue to see Gobert being pulled in 3 different directions because no one else can do anything to bother bigger players at the rim, and they can't switch on the perimeter well enough to keep Gobert near the basket. Sadly, our system has been fully decoded and any strong team with the personnel to do it, can unravel us just like that. In lots of ways, we just got lucky they made some real mistakes and missed some shots down the stretch in the Houston game, because they had us figured out, and we were not really forcing them into anything defensively, other than maybe a steal and one 24 second violation. Otherwise, they just missed open shots and threw the ball away a couple time. Sink even 2 or 3 of those 3s in OT like they were the rest of the game and we lose. And once we are figured out, well that's it, we are done. We don't have anything else. We have this hugely complicated and complex offensive machine, but when they understand how to keep us from using it, then we have nothing to fall back on. Not a thing.

And that is on the coaching staff, primarily, imho.
 
Im not feeling good about this team after tonight lol. Worst game of the season
 
SoUjazzfan said:
One nice thing about this team is the May and June camping trips won't interfere with any Jazz games.......
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They are very considerate of our vacation plans… very polite group of individuals
 
SoUjazzfan said:
One nice thing about this team is the May and June camping trips won't interfere with any Jazz games.......
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I had this dilemma earlier when I was looking at a weekend trip in June. I think I’ll go ahead and book.
 
I think they should change the salary structure for players and coaches to hinge 75% on winning. And a semi-hard cap to stop super teams. If they had something to play for you'd see far more competitive games all the way through. But when the lowest paid player are making multiples of what players like Malone ever made in their career, there's nothing to play for. Pride can only get you so far.
 
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