Feeling Better About This Team

[homeytennis]

We have different definitions of “a lot”. Butler has played a higher percentage of games than Forrest btw. The problem is that Butler hasn’t been that good. Rookies on good teams don’t always get lots of play. You gotta earn it.

Butler has done something to put himself on the Elijah Hughes/Miye Oni train to oblivion. We don't see practices or scrimmages so we don't know what the transgressions are.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

NAW can defend, he can self-create and he can score. If he'll limit his shot selection, he can make spot-up 3s. That's more than I can say about Forrest.

He can't. Just because he attempts to do it means he could do it. Dude was putting up all time ****** stats on a lottery team he isn't going to come in and play winning ball. At least Forrest has intagibles.

 

[homeytennis]

He can't. Just because he attempts to do it means he could do it. Dude was putting up all time ****** stats on a lottery team he isn't going to come in and play winning ball. At least Forrest has intagibles.

We don't know if he can or can't. His only time so far with the Jazz has been garbage time. He has House on the roster so it is hard to break into the rotation.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

looks like he won't see minutes under quin for now. it's either he's still not comfortable with the plays or quin is not impressed at practice.

Why does it have to be either. He’s trying to win games and put his team in the best position to win games. He’s also not going to play an 11 man rotation.

Butler has done something to put himself on the Elijah Hughes/Miye Oni train to oblivion. We don't see practices or scrimmages so we don't know what the transgressions are.

Again look at my post above. NAW’s and Butler’s best bet to play is going through spring training and and preseason and JC getting traded at next years deadline could help as well or off season.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

We don't know if he can or can't. His only time so far with the Jazz has been garbage time. He has House on the roster so it is hard to break into the rotation.

We have a huge sample size of what he can do. Hope he improves this off-season

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

He can't. Just because he attempts to do it means he could do it. Dude was putting up all time ****** stats on a lottery team he isn't going to come in and play winning ball. At least Forrest has intagibles.

Yes but by putting on the Utah Jazz jersey all of his issues will fade away… you see there is magic in our laundry that heals players and turns them from inefficient chuckers into amazing three and D guys.

 

[infection]

If NAW doesn’t do anything that causes us to retain him beyond his current contract, this will be one of the most short-sighted salary dumps ever. We dumped $3M in salary off our books this year in exchange for adding $5M to the books next year, and next year’s books are much, much more problematic than this year’s. I strongly encourage anyone reading to go take a look at it.

Utah Jazz Team Payroll | Basketball-Reference.com

Payroll summary for the Utah Jazz

www.basketball-reference.com

There will be further collateral.

 

[JazzyBelle]

To much outside noise about Donovan to NYC. I would do what Denver did is and get a bunch of Knicks players and Picks for him because he never going to win anything here. Ball dominant players like Carmelo, TMac, Donovan don't when in playoffs and we can decide to cut the connection because if it comes a couple years from now and he walks out Jazz will look so bad because we all know how so many will act.. Hayward departure will look minor compared to Mitchell and Us Jazz fans will not look good. This team is not a Final caliber team. Warriors,Suns are both clearly better teams and if Nuggets get Jamal or MPJ back, just one of them comes back they are better built for playoffs with Jokic.

Get rid of American players and build around Rudy and other international players as the core because foreign players are more loyal than Americans today. Don't see Giannis, Jokic,Luka wanting a "Bigger Market".

 

[jazz4life1992]

To much outside noise about Donovan to NYC. I would do what Denver did is and get a bunch of Knicks players and Picks for him because he never going to win anything here. Ball dominant players like Carmelo, TMac, Donovan don't when in playoffs and we can decide to cut the connection because if it comes a couple years from now and he walks out Jazz will look so bad because we all know how so many will act.. Hayward departure will look minor compared to Mitchell and Us Jazz fans will not look good. This team is not a Final caliber team. Warriors,Suns are both clearly better teams and if Nuggets get Jamal or MPJ back, just one of them comes back they are better built for playoffs with Jokic.

Get rid of American players and build around Rudy and other international players as the core because foreign players are more loyal than Americans today. Don't see Giannis, Jokic,Luka wanting a "Bigger Market".

Fully Healthy Warriors and Suns are better - yes.

But neither the Warriors or Suns are fully healthy right now. Suns without CP3 are not better than the Jazz. Warriors without Draymond are maybe slightly better than Utah.

Nuggets banking on Murray and MPJ coming off major injuries with less than 20 games left and contributing are not better than the Jazz.

There is absolutely no reason right now the Jazz should not be able to make the WCF if the Warriors and Suns dont get CP3 and Draymond back at close to full health.

 

[fishonjazz]

To much outside noise about Donovan to NYC. I would do what Denver did is and get a bunch of Knicks players and Picks for him because he never going to win anything here. Ball dominant players like Carmelo, TMac, Donovan don't when in playoffs and we can decide to cut the connection because if it comes a couple years from now and he walks out Jazz will look so bad because we all know how so many will act.. Hayward departure will look minor compared to Mitchell and Us Jazz fans will not look good. This team is not a Final caliber team. Warriors,Suns are both clearly better teams and if Nuggets get Jamal or MPJ back, just one of them comes back they are better built for playoffs with Jokic.

Get rid of American players and build around Rudy and other international players as the core because foreign players are more loyal than Americans today. Don't see Giannis, Jokic,Luka wanting a "Bigger Market".

Ball dominant players win in the playoffs all the time. Jordan, magic, steph, durant, lebron, kahwi, etc etc etc.
You want your best player to dominate the ball. Cause they are your best player. Donovan dominating the ball is a big reason why we have won in the playoffs. I certainly dont want royce or clarkson or someone other than donovan with the ball the most in the playoffs


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[Saint Cy of JFC]

Ball dominant players win in the playoffs all the time. Jordan, magic, steph, durant, lebron, kahwi, etc etc etc.
You want your best player to dominate the ball. Cause they are your best player. Donovan dominating the ball is a big reason why we have won in the playoffs. I certainly dont want royce or clarkson or someone other than donovan with the ball the most in the playoffs


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Steph not ball dominant tho.

 

[Jingled]

I swear, it seems like ever since Quin's been here, we almost always play our best basketball of the season during the month of February. Not sure why exactly.