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Anyone got any tips?

Here's my situation (warning long, see tl:dr at bottom for ADHD sufferers):

In 2011 my wife and I purchased a 2009 Subaru Legacy from Mark Miller Subaru, it was "her" car. Against my objections my wife decided to buy the extended factory warranty through Subaru of America. FFW Thanksgiving day 2013 my wife is driving to visit family and she hears a knock in the engine. She immediately pulls over and turns the car off. She gets out and checks the oil, it is all but empty. A guy pulls over and offers assistance, turns out he has a few quarts of the appropriate oil in his car and he gives it to her. She tries the car again after adding the oil and at idle it sounds fine. She presses the gas and there is a knock. She contacts some family and they come to help her out. They add more oil and run the car at idle again, it sounds fine. She hits the gas and it knocks. We get the car towed to the Mark Miller Subaru dealership.

The previous oil change was in 12-12 at Jiffy Lube, my wife opted for the Synthetic oil. Her mileage was 42K. When we dropped the vehicle at the dealership the millage was at 52K. Recommended oil service interval is 7 months or 7000 miles.

Dealership said it probably just needed an oil flush, they couldn't hear a knock. Wife tells them it WAS knocking, thinks it's more than an oil flush type issue. They push, she agrees to pay for the oil flush. Guy calls back and said when he took it on a test drive there was a knock. Says it needs a new or rebuilt engine, asks for service records. We give him what we've got and he takes several days and finally presents us with the option of spending anywhere for $4,400 to $5,500 to replace the engine. We don't have $5K to give him. We ask if there are options or if there is a way they could work with us or do a good will type thing, we've bought 3 cars from Mark Miller since 2006 and plan to be in the market for another car in 2014. He says he'll talk to his service manager, then calls back and just repeats our option to spend $5K for a new engine, we ask him again if there's anything they can do, what other options we might have, he says he'll look into it, a few days later another call same thing, over and over.

Finally we get a hold of the service manager, he asks if we've called 1-800-SUBARU3, we're like wtf? Why haven't we been presented with this as we're begging for options? We start the process with the warranty side of Subaru. About a month after we drop the car off they come up with the idea of starting discovery to see why the engine failed. They say it will take 3 days, I call back 5 days later and they aren't done yet. Day 6 and I get the call that the cause was oil starvation, that it isn't likely that it will be covered, we'll be presented with some estimates for the repairs.

I haven't gotten the final word from the Subaru Warranty center but I'm expecting a denial. Anyone have any tips on how I should proceed?

Essentially if they are not going to cover the repairs we will surrender the vehicle. We're in the process of filing bankruptcy. We'd prefer to keep the vehicle, it's our only vehicle at the moment. If they partially covered the repairs we'd see what we could do, but there is simply no way we can swing $5K right now.



tl:dr 2009 Subaru Legacy, oil change at 42K miles, engine throws a rod at 52K miles, factory warranty coverage denied, we're desperate and looking for suggestions.
 
For the record, I love Subarus and credit my 2006 Forester XT for saving my families life.

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Rolled several times down the side of Spanish Fork Canyon. My wife, son and MIL inside. All walked away with minor scrapes and bruises.

Replaced with a 2008 WRX

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Then purchased the 2009 Legacy as a second vehicle.
 
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Ask them to prove they changed the oil every 7 months prior to you purchasing it from them. The factory and dealerships sell plenty of cars that have already not met their own maintenance requirements.
 
Ask them to prove they changed the oil every 7 months prior to you purchasing it from them. The factory and dealerships sell plenty of cars that have already not met their own maintenance requirements.
Much appreciated!

Talking to one of my brother-in-laws, who works for San Diego County as an auto mechanic, he suggested that going 10K between oil changes shouldn't result in a catastrophic engine failure in a car with about 50k miles on it and that at the least they should cover part of the repair but so far they haven't offered that up. He also questioned the steps they took and wondered why they didn't start discovery immediately on a vehicle with an extended warranty.

Wondering who I should put my effort into being a thorn in their side about this. The warranty people? Mark Miller management/ownership?
 
Anyone else with experience dealing with this type of thing?
 
cant help w/ specifics here but in general i will sometimes try and stick my enes into problems and see if that will help. maybe try that?
 
Anyone have any receipts for 5W-30 oil from around the middle of 2013 laying around?
 
So, a small victory. They are going to repair the car for $4,400 and the warranty is going to good-will 50% of it, so $2,200 for us. Now we've just got to find a family member willing to lend us some of that money.
 
So, a small victory. They are going to repair the car for $4,400 and the warranty is going to good-will 50% of it, so $2,200 for us. Now we've just got to find a family member willing to lend us some of that money.

Glad to hear that. Hope you get it worked out and that the bankruptcy process goes OK for you.
 
Have you tried threatening to burn down the building?

I saw a movie once and if I remember right I'm pretty sure it worked out pretty well.
 
Have you tried threatening to burn down the building?

I saw a movie once and if I remember right I'm pretty sure it worked out pretty well.

I strongly considered this option. My wife wasn't as enthusiastic. ****ing women, amiright?
 
Have you tried threatening to burn down the building?

I saw a movie once and if I remember right I'm pretty sure it worked out pretty well.

You have to get someone to steal a bunch of money first and leave it in an envelope for you when you burn the building down.
 
Glad you are getting some coverage. I would just get it fixed, and sell it. i bet its worth close to 10k. pay off the repair and buy something older and cheap in the meantime, and come out a few grand ahead. save that for the down payment on the car you were going to purchase in 14.
 
I still drive a 92 suburban that i bought for 500$ 7 years ago. everyone gives me **** cause its so beat up, but I dont care. So nice to not have a car payment when money is tight.
 
I still drive a 92 suburban that i bought for 500$ 7 years ago. everyone gives me **** cause its so beat up, but I dont care. So nice to not have a car payment when money is tight.

This. I drove a 93 Celia until three years ago i bought dirt cheap. Got a much better job, and needed something more comfortable and reliable.

Can't wait to not have a car payment again. That time was great.
 
This. I drove a 93 Celia until three years ago i bought dirt cheap. Got a much better job, and needed something more comfortable and reliable.

Can't wait to not have a car payment again. That time was great.

Yep. No car payment is the way to go. I drove a '96 Kia (paid for in cash) from 1996 until it died last year. No car payment for 17 years! Bought a nicer car last year, but we've paid for ~70% of it, so the remaining car payment is pretty minimal.
 
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