Flat Earth movement - explain please...

[Siro]

fun stuff again.

nah, Siro. You need to study up on the subject. Obvious supernatural, almighty Gods can do stuff. More than superman, more than Spider-Man, more than batman. More than RocketMan.

Modern Mos circa 1820 described angels and personages coming and going in pillars of light, sorta like "Beam Me Up, Scottie".

Surely God could've just whisked him away supernaturally and instantly. He instead opted for theatrics and showmanship. Now that's my kind of God.

 

[MVP]

You need to study up on the subject. Obvious supernatural, almighty Gods can do stuff. More than superman, more than Spider-Man, more than batman. More than RocketMan.
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Studied. Conclusion - Almighty Gods have more supernatural powers than Spider-man, Batman, Unicorn, Ogre or Rocketman. And they are fictional as well.

 

[Siro]

Studied. Conclusion - Almighty Gods have more supernatural powers than Spider-man, Batman, Unicorn, Ogre or Rocketman. And they are fictional as well.

I hear Thanos might be stronger than Jesus tho.

 

[Jack Strop]

Silly flatearthers. Everyone knows the earth is a globe, being held aloft by the Titan, Atlas.

 

[MVP]

I hear Thanos might be stronger than Jesus tho.

And Priapus had the biggest dick of them all.

 

[Zombie]

Silly flatearthers. Everyone knows the earth is a globe, being held aloft by the Titan, Atlas.

Nah man, it's obviously turtles.


All the way down.

 

[MVP]

Nah man, it's obviously turtles.


All the way down.

nah, its the whale...

 

[Siro]

nah, its the whale...

Wtf is this from? What's the connection between the text and the image?

 

[MVP]

Wtf is this from? What's the connection between the text and the image?

Its really cool, especially where he explains about god creating talking pen, whale and earth.

 

[Siro]

Its really cool, especially where he explains about god creating talking pen, whale and earth.

Don't wanna go thru 20 minutes of religion bashing. Kind of boring. But if the video says Muslims believe the Earth sits on a whale, then it's not true. I've never heard of such a thing.

 

[MVP]

Don't wanna go thru 20 minutes of religion bashing. Kind of boring. But if the video says Muslims believe the Earth sits on a whale, then it's not true. I've never heard of such a thing.

I find it actually pretty interesting. It talks about most of the hadiths up to 18 century talking about creation and how it was later changed removing the pen and the whale from it.

Ibn Abbas (ابن عباس) said: The first thing Allah created (خلق) was the pen (القلم). He ordered it to write. It said: What shall I write? He said: Write the fate (القدر). So it wrote what will happen from that day (اليوم) until the Day of judgement, then he created the Nun (النون, al-noon), then he raised the water and created the heavens with it and laid the earth (الأرض) on (على) the back (ظهر) of the Nun, the Nun moved and so did the earth, so it was fixed down with mountains (بالجبال).


He specifically quotes Ibn Abbas who was later discredited by other muslim scholars - "As to the mistakes of scholars and their interpretations, Ibn Abbas' quote was written 300 years after the Prophet and Ibn Abbas, and many mistakes and wrong attributions were falsely attributed to them, probably by errors or by the words of mouths. Also, ancient false Greek and Egyptian mythologies possibly found their way into those late Islamic writings through liars' false mouths."

 

[Siro]

I find it actually pretty interesting. It talks about most of the hadiths up to 18 century talking about creation and how it was later changed removing the pen and the whale from it. He specifically quotes Ibn Abbas who was later discreditted - "As to the mistakes of scholars and their interpretations, Ibn Abbas' quote was written 300 years after the Prophet and Ibn Abbas, and many mistakes and wrong attributions were falsely attributed to them, probably by errors or by the words of mouths. Also, ancient false Greek and Egyptian mythologies possibly found their way into those late Islamic writings through liars' false mouths."

Ya, you can pretty much make an argument for anything using the Hadith. It was written by a lot of people across hundreds of years.

However, the Earth being on a whale was never a widespread Muslim belief. I know this not only because I think I would've heard of it otherwise, but because Muslims simply do not view things with that kind of animist perspective. Muslim superstitions revolve around curses, evil spirits, jinxes, and such things. There is also a creation account in the Quran. No mention of a whale as far as I remember.