Following 2016 potential draftees

[Jazz4ever]

Is Ellenson the white Trey Lyles?

I've heard the comp more than once, not sure how accurate it is.

 

[spycam1]

Murray doesn't have the handle to play 1 yet, and is an undersized two. His wingspan hurts him. He's obviously good, but he's a #2 or #3 option at best.

FWIW, the same things were said about Steph Curry.

 

[RandyForRubio]

FWIW, the same things were said about Steph Curry.

Very true, but Curry is an outlier.

Don't get me wrong, I like Murray and think he's one of the best in this draft, I just think it's a weak draft.

 

[Doublea]

I really like Luwawu. Great size, looks to be a good shooter and defender. He'd be in our draft range too.

 

[spycam1]

I really like Luwawu. Great size, looks to be a good shooter and defender. He'd be in our draft range too.

I'm hoping he falls to us, in the event that we make the playoffs.

 

[spycam1]

Wade Baldwin is underrated. His length is ****ing insane, he's a pretty good athlete, he can shoot the 3 ball, and gets to the FT line.

 

[BTP]

[...]Remember Lillard was mostly a jump shooter in school. He worked a lot on his body and became more of a dunker in the pros. Lillard was also considered a shoot-first guard with mediocre defense. It wasn't clear he'd be a starting PG. [...]

I think Lillard is still shoot first. His playmaking revolves heavily around the threat of him shooting. Basic passes. And mediocre defense was probably more on a college level. His NBA defense has been very lackluster. If Portland was better/had higher expecations, we'd see some Harden-clips starring him.

 

[NCJazz]

Time to see if Brandon Ingram can have a great tournament and vault himself into real contention for the #1 pick. However, my alma mater may have something to say about that.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Murray is more athletic than you think. Definitely finishes around the rim better than McCollum. Has the same standing reach and max vertical as Lillard coming out of college. Remember Lillard was mostly a jump shooter in school. He worked a lot on his body and became more of a dunker in the pros. Lillard was also considered a shoot-first guard with mediocre defense. It wasn't clear he'd be a starting PG. I think there are some comparisons there in terms of impact and ceiling. Murray needs to get stronger, like all freshmen, but he'd be a great offensive player with the Jazz and could play either guard position.

Yeah, kinda moot, since we're not likely getting him.

1) Did you watch Lillard in college? He was not just a jump shooter. Not at all.

2) He's still a shoot first PG with mediocre defense.

3) Msybe others weren't, but I was very high on Lillard coming out. Thought he was gonna be a star. So much of his game translated to the pros.

4) Murray ain't no Lillard.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

1) Did you watch Lillard in college? He was not just a jump shooter. Not at all.

2) He's still a shoot first PG with mediocre defense.

3) Msybe others weren't, but I was very high on Lillard coming out. Thought he was gonna be a star. So much of his game translated to the pros.

4) Murray ain't no Lillard.

Think he was referring to Lillard's Freshman year.

 

[stitches]

I'm not seeing what most of you are seeing in Murray. I think he's a great college player, but I feel like he lacks the quickness and shiftiness to be a playmaker in the NBA. His best role would probably be something like JJ Reddick - running around screens and handoffs and spotting up for jumpers. He might be a good secondary/tertiary option, but I don't see him as a can't miss prospect, especially when you consider his D would probably be a negative in the league. I think he can easily bust if he can't change and adjust his game to the pros.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

These refs are sucking Duke's dick.

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