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welp that makes sense, I'm still waiting to see who hires agents before I can really set the field but it's hard to imagine a scenario where he'd get drafted..

if they strike out on this final wave of bigs, and Yertseven either goes elsewhere or isn't legit..

Do you think they oould go after Derryck Thornton??

Any chance they go after a remaining 4-star player like Kostas Antetekounmpo or Deshawn Corprew late?

No chance on Thornton.. And will not be a need at all.
There's some rumblings about a possible grad transfer but I can't get a name.
I think if we miss on Bolden and Yurtseven we will roll with what we've got.
We lack a true elite C for sure, but we have decent depth with all of these guys 6'9 or bigger;
Gabriel
Bam
Hump
Tai
Lee
Willis
Skj

I believe Bam would do fine at 6'9.25 250 and freak athlete/motor.
 
to all placing a premium on wing-shooting sans-defense, ask yourself how many minutes Stauskas has received since coming to the NBA.

I feel like the Jazz FO is gonna be choosing between Korkmaz and Luwawu for #12. I figure it'll probably be Luwawu unless Korkmaz projects as a competent defender. Ir'd be such a treat to have a knockdown threat from the perimeter.


Look at Stauskas' shooting percentages and age before you compare him to Korkmaz. Korkmaz isn't going to be a defensive juggernaut, but neither are Korver, Redick, McCollum or Booker. I think Korkmaz might be a solid shooter from all over the floor.
 
The Hawks look like a team better suited to the playoffs this year than last. So, the "Korver" argument is tossed out the window. They look like a better playoff team because of their improved defense.

In other words, Catchall's post (which Dalamon thought was a "really good post") looks pretty bad, IMO.

The Celtics scored 7 points in the first quarter yesterday.


Your point is what exactly? Korver started last night when the Hawks held the Cs to 7pts in the first quarter. Korver also shot 5/7 on 3-pt attempts and played 33 mins. His +/- was +25 in a 17-point win. He's a top-10 offensive player when he's shooting well.
 
The Hawks look like a team better suited to the playoffs this year than last. So, the "Korver" argument is tossed out the window. They look like a better playoff team because of their improved defense.

In other words, Catchall's post (which Dalamon thought was a "really good post") looks pretty bad, IMO.

The Celtics scored 7 points in the first quarter yesterday.

Or they are just playing an overachieving Boston team who got hit with some huge injuries.
 
Look at Stauskas' shooting percentages and age before you compare him to Korkmaz. Korkmaz isn't going to be a defensive juggernaut, but neither are Korver, Redick, McCollum or Booker. I think Korkmaz might be a solid shooter from all over the floor.

Korkmaz shot flames in college dude at a very high rate.
 
I get the comps to Thabo Sefalosha and Doug Christie as far as Luwawu's defensive potential is concerned. Just keep in mind that the Jazz with Exum and Gobert are already going to be a top-5 defensive team. What they need is offensive versatility so they don't bog down, turn the ball over or throw up bricks. I think Korkmaz's offensive versatility, including the ability to make a shot from anywhere and make a play with the pass, would have the bigger impact on the Jazz's offense and overall outlook. Luwawu's a decent player though.

Keep in mind, when Kyle Korver shoots the ball well, the Hawks become a contender. When he doesn't shoot the ball well, the Hawks are a middling playoff team...kinda like where we're headed right now.

*We are not automatically a top-5 defensive team because Gobert and Exum (No Favors in your post??). Exum has loads to prove, and our defensive woes in the 4th quarter point to a thorough-going problem with our defensive aptitude.

*Becoming more versatile on the offensive side doesn't mean that we have to start sacrificing defensive capabilities. In order to play on a string, everybody should be apt. You acquire talent that fits into your system and alongside your already-acquired talent without compromising that system or those aptitudes (which Korkmaz would certainly do... and for a while... but maybe he can be taught?). And you also expect these players to be impact-full offensive players. Getting better in one facet needn't result in getting worse in the other.

*Korver's team-defense has always been very under-rated around here. In your post, you seem to imply that he's a compromise-to-the-system. He's often not. Does his style of offense take more energy from his defender and leave him less cashed on the other side? Yes. Therefore, is offensive impact important to defensive impact? Yes. But this isn't a simple dialectical problem. It's more complicated than that.

*Your point about the Hawks is, at certain points, unproven, and, at others, just plain wrong. First, the Hawks are just a couple of years into a massive overhaul and culture change. During that process, they've signed an incredible collection of players on great deals, drafted well, won 60 games, been to the EFC, and may very well be back to the EFC in consecutive years as a better team than the year before. It's embarrassing to call what they're doing "middling". Now, to the wrong part: the jazz should not be compared to the Hawks in this facile way.
 
*We are not automatically a top-5 defensive team because Gobert and Exum (No Favors in your post??). Exum has loads to prove, and our defensive woes in the 4th quarter point to a thorough-going problem with our defensive aptitude.

*Becoming more versatile on the offensive side doesn't mean that we have to start sacrificing defensive capabilities. In order to play on a string, everybody should be apt. You acquire talent that fits into your system and alongside your already-acquired talent without compromising that system or those aptitudes (which Korkmaz would certainly do... and for a while... but maybe he can be taught?). And you also expect these players to be impact-full offensive players. Getting better in one facet needn't result in getting worse in the other.

*Korver's team-defense has always been very under-rated around here. In your post, you seem to imply that he's a compromise-to-the-system. He's often not. Does his style of offense take more energy from his defender and leave him less cashed on the other side? Yes. Therefore, is offensive impact important to defensive impact? Yes. But this isn't a simple dialectical problem. It's more complicated than that.

*Your point about the Hawks is, at certain points, unproven, and, at others, just plain wrong. First, the Hawks are just a couple of years into a massive overhaul and culture change. During that process, they've signed an incredible collection of players on great deals, drafted well, won 60 games, been to the EFC, and may very well be back to the EFC in consecutive years as a better team than the year before. It's embarrassing to call what they're doing "middling". Now, to the wrong part: the jazz should not be compared to the Hawks in this facile way.

^I blame Gameface for getting me stoned. But I stand by every word of that atm.
 
Or they are just playing an overachieving Boston team who got hit with some huge injuries.

The evidence suggests that the Hawks are very much improved on the defensive side of the ball. They needed to make that improvement to their team, and, apparently, they have. They haven't tread-milled for a year....
 
And, Thank YOU ATL for giving me something to care about in the NBA playoffs the past two seasons. My team was inadequately stocked with talent last offseason (when we were well-positioned to add some), and they missed the playoffs again.
 
^I love these THEE JAZZ FAN TIRADES. Multiple, consecutive posts that nobody cares about half as much as I do. But **** it.
 
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