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Handlogten's Heros said:
It's funny that this sentiment is even out there to me... The guy isn't worth his contract but we can trade him for a ton of value? He's either valuable or not right?

The people that argued against his contract kept saying it would be untradeable but I bet Danny ainge would be over the moon if we offered hay for #3. He'd be their best player and I don't think it's really close.
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He has value sure. But if we offered him for a top draft pick the other team might say no and would definitely have to think about it.

Other max guys would guarantee that the team with the #1 pick would do the trade.

Not all max contract players have equal value imo
 
spycam1 said:
Huh? He didn't even remember to put Hood in that lineup and it still looks better to you? That lineup is literally the current Jazz squad minus Hood and Hayward.

Edit: I guess he went back and edited it to put in Hood.
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Hayward haters have it in their DNA. Whenever it becomes in style to hate Hayward, they all join in on the fun.

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Handlogten's Heros said:
It's funny that this sentiment is even out there to me... The guy isn't worth his contract but we can trade him for a ton of value? He's either valuable or not right?

The people that argued against his contract kept saying it would be untradeable but I bet Danny ainge would be over the moon if we offered hay for #3. He'd be their best player and I don't think it's really close.
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Also if you look at stats, all star appearances, playoff appearances then Thomas would come out ahead of Hayward.

I think Thomas is making like 6 million per year btw.

Not saying Thomas is the better player but actually on paper he kind of is
 
Dr. Jones said:
[MENTION=1066]Thee jazz fan[/MENTION]

If you concede my past objectivity toward UK players (which is 100% true), then why is it unthinkable that I truly believe Murray is going to be a total stud?

How is it suddenly less than objective when I promote one guy?
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If he concedes that he must also concede the Easter Bunny is real.

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King Cy said:
Last time I checked Hayward averaged 19.7 ppg this past season with 5 rebound and 4 assist per game. There are playoff teams who had their leading scorers average less points at a less efficient clip.
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Have you researched that? Can you give actual names and stats?

Not saying I don't believe you to be correct just curious.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also if you look at stats, all star appearances, playoff appearances then Thomas would come out ahead of Hayward.

I think Thomas is making like 6 million per year btw.

Not saying Thomas is the better player but actually on paper he kind of is
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Lmao

That Hayward hate is coming out strong. Pretty soon we going to have Burks>Hayward post.

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fishonjazz said:
Have you researched that? Can you give actual names and stats?

Not saying I don't believe you to be correct just curious.
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Hawks, Heat, Grizzlies, Mavs, probably a few others that I can't think of off the top. You really think all 16 playoff teams have 20 ppg scorers? I'm not even positive there are 16 players who average 20 ( and I know a lot of the ones that are are on the same team).

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Handlogten's Heros said:
Fish wants a lineup of

Burks
Burks
Burks
Burks
Burks - Bring back Fes to backup center
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Actually I think we should trade him and anyone else on the team to try to get a true star max player. Always have felt that way.
 
fishonjazz said:
He has value sure. But if we offered him for a top draft pick the other team might say no and would definitely have to think about it.

Other max guys would guarantee that the team with the #1 pick would do the trade.

Not all max contract players have equal value imo
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Oh I'm with you there guy. I just think it was funny when people were thinking his contract would be immovable and no way we should match it. I can guarantee we could get the #3 pick with it (an obvious fake guarantee... no such guarantee exists... and I have no power to guarantee any of my BS).

Now we could get something really valuable for the guy but people still say he's not worth the max? He's worth every penny of his current max under this cap. I think he will be worth close to his megamax contract he signs next year. I also recognize he's not providing the value that he max guys like Lebron, Durant, etc. provide. Not all max contracts are equal... I get it.
 
King Cy said:
Nah, that is what Burks level players are for. You don't trade Hayward for a 3rd tier draft prospect.

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Burks too. I think the jazz should always being trying to get a player better than anyone on the team currently.

There are many players currently in the nba that I want more than anyone on the jazz right now and there will likely be a few players in this draft that will be better than anyone on the jazz right now.
Imo its a good idea to try to get elite players.
 
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