Following 2016 potential draftees

[♪alt13]

So what type of player would be a perfect compliment to Hayward then? To maximize his talents like Curry does to Thompson?

I think Hayward would be a perfect fit with prime Duncan. A dangerous big with legit passing skills would really open up a lot for G-time in my view.


Who wouldn't benefit from that?

 

[cowhide]

I would disagree that Thompson would not be the same on another team. There have been several games when Curry was hurt that Klay took over. I am not saying Curry doesn't help him but kid doesn't get enough credit for being as good as he is.

If he were on another team he probably would get more credit for being a star (like Harden does being on Houston while be the 3rd amigo in OKC).

 

[fishonjazz]

I'm worried about he projects because he appears laterally pretty slow

9'3 is an amazing reach for a guy with enough lateral quickness to defend out on perimeter switches.

So about that lateral quickness.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

So what type of player would be a perfect compliment to Hayward then? To maximize his talents like Curry does to Thompson?

An elite, versatile pick-and-roll big like Anthony Davis or Karl Anthony Towns. Hayward playing with a guy like that would pick teams apart.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I think Hayward would be a perfect fit with prime Duncan. A dangerous big with legit passing skills would really open up a lot for G-time in my view.


Who wouldn't benefit from that?

Yes. Hayward's strengths and weaknesses are a bit similar to a younger Manu Ginobli.

 

[fishonjazz]

Cavs aren't deep, they have Shumpert, Delavadova, and Richard Jefferson as their bench unit. They are the super-star driven team. They have 3 guys who, at least when they where brought together, where all considered a top 5 player at their position (at least).

The Warriors are a deep team who have former lottery picks coming off the bench. They are also the team that built their team through the draft and with patience. The Jazz need to be looking for the deal that lands us our Igoudala, not trying to trade away our best player for future assets or a rookie who has no chance of being as good as Hayward.

I think allot of warriors depth is due to friendly contracts. I wonder how deep they will be when they have to max klay, steph, barnes, draymond and give other dudes like iggy raises.

Gonna be interesting to see what happens going forward with them.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

This is why the Jazz have to take a hard look at Poeltl and Skal in this draft.

 

[fishonjazz]

I would disagree that Thompson would not be the same on another team. There have been several games when Curry was hurt that Klay took over. I am not saying Curry doesn't help him but kid doesn't get enough credit for being as good as he is.

If he were on another team he probably would get more credit for being a star (like Harden does being on Houston while be the 3rd amigo in OKC).

This. Thompson is a deadly shooter, has a good mid range game, is crafty in the paint, can finish ok, plays great defense, and has good size.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So about that lateral quickness.

You are welcome to look at his videos and develop your own opinion.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

This. Thompson is a deadly shooter, has a good mid range game, is crafty in the paint, can finish ok, plays great defense, and has good size.

And struggles to get to the FT line at all. He is closer to Trey Burke's ability to draw fouls than Hayward's.

Your ability to draw fouls, more than almost any other offensive stat, is kind of what determines your ability to be a top scorer on a team.

 

[idiot]

Too bad -- I was hoping he'd stay out of the limelight and as a 3&D 3/4 hybrid be among those available at #42:

Givony tweet today: "Paul Zipser hitting on all cylinders. Dunking on people. Making 3s. Playing good D. Looks confident, athletic, experienced.Stock up for sure"

and from DX article today: "NBA scouts and executives want to see prospects who are projected to be drafted separate themselves from their peers in settings such as the EuroCamp. This is exactly what Paul Zipser did the moment he stepped on the floor in Treviso. That started at 9am in the morning drills, when only the most industrious scouts were in attendance to watch the players go through their paces. And it continued all morning long on the two different courts he was asked to play on.

Zipser is one of the most experienced players in this group, having seen significant minutes in the Euroleague, EuroCup, German BBL and with his national team last summer alongside Dirk Nowitzki. That was immediately evident with the confidence, poise and aggressiveness he showed in the five on five games he participated in.

Zipser attacked the paint relentlessly off the dribble both off closeouts and isolation situations, showing an excellent first step and the ability to finish explosively above the rim. On the perimeter, he knocked down numerous open 3-point shots, mainly of the catch and shoot variety, but also showed the ability to hit a pull-up jumper in the mid-range area, which isn't normally a major strength of his game. Defensively, he guarded multiple positions in his no-nonense fashion, mostly operating at the power forward position, using his strong frame, but showing nice versatility switching onto players big and small all over the floor.

Zipser made a strong case for himself to be considered the best prospect at this camp, and is at the very least the most "ready" to play the role he would be asked to in the NBA, as a 3'n'D combo forward. He looked excellent from a physical perspective, with good size, long arms, big hands and a strong body, which should allow him to play the power forward position without any real issues. His stroke is reliable when given time and space, and he is a versatile defender who is attentive and fundamentally sound.

Young prospects on the deepest and most ambitious clubs in Europe can get "out of sight, out of mind" quickly sometimes in the NBA Draft process, as scouts aren't always able to see exactly what they can offer in limited minutes.

For that reason, Zipser couldn't have done much more to help himself in Treviso, in a five on five setting no less, which is why the Camp Directors quickly elected to cancel the afternoon one on zero workout he had scheduled. He should be a very popular candidate to get workouts in the late first and early second round portion of the draft, and should certainly get strong consideration in that range if he's able to deliver there in similar fashion to what he did in Treviso. After a strong showing in Italy, Zipser now moves on to the US, where he has a number of private workouts already lined up."

 

[fishonjazz]

And struggles to get to the FT line at all. He is closer to Trey Burke's ability to draw fouls than Hayward's.

Your ability to draw fouls, more than almost any other offensive stat, is kind of what determines your ability to be a top scorer on a team.

Good point. It's amazing how good of a scorer he is without the free throws to boost his numbers.
Imagine if he starts drawing more fouls.
22 ppg in 33 minutes for the season. 42.5% from three, 47% from the field, 87.3% from the line.
If he ever starts drawing fouls and gets more minutes then watch out