Following 2016 potential draftees

[Dr. Jones]

Well Burks is actually a really good rebounder when he focuses on digging in on the boards, so if Luwawu is as good of rebounder as Burks, just with SF size, that would be more than adequate IMO.

This is, at best, awkward.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Just poppin in to ask what a microwave type player is?

A shooter who can score a ton of points in a short amount of time, a player who gets hot in a flash.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Damn, just heard an interesting note from Locke on an interview with PK. He said something along the lines that Utah wanted to go small more, but since they lacked big wings they couldn't really do it. He thinks Hayward can play the 4, but having Ingles as the 3 makes it too hard since he isnt athletic or big enough to help out on the boards. I wonder if that means they will target a guy like Luwawu/Prince/Brown(moving up for that last one).

Please no Brown. I would add Bembry to your list as well.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Please no Brown. I would add Bembry to your list as well.

Bembry is more of a guard IMO and he can't shoot.

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[RandyForRubio]

Bembry is more of a guard IMO and he can't shoot.

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Shooting is the easiest thing to fix. Innate basketball ability is rare, he's got it.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Please no Brown. I would add Bembry to your list as well.

Genuinely would like to hear why you dislike Brown.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Shooting is the easiest thing to fix. Innate basketball ability is rare, he's got it.

Yeah but not every prospect who cant shoot learns to shoot. If they did, then everyone in the NBA would be a really good shooter.


Overall he just average size for a SF, probably below average with his frame. Just don't think he really fits what I heard from Locke saying they wanted another big wing who could shoot a bit to pair with Hayward in small lineups.

 

[spycam1]

I've already mentally penciled in D-Murray as the pick. And I'm good with that.

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[Thee Jazz Fan]

Bender

Obvious upside with his tremendous reach.
Coupled with a good shooting tough makes him interesting.

I'm worried about he projects because he appears laterally pretty slow and certainly not explosive.
Couple that with being very weak and a slight frame and it makes him... less interesting.

Just my take. Not necessarily what has been said here.. as if I read this stupid *** thread.

Would u say he's a poor mans Porzingis?

The talk of if a player is a #1 or a #2 or a #3 is so ****ing annoying.

Hayward and Hood didn't improve? Are you high? Hayward turned into a very good defensive player this year and maintained his offensive ability. Hood actually played well for most of a season and performed as a starter, not just a player who came on at the end of the season.

Burks was injured, hard to improve while recovering from surgery.

Gobert's skill development is a work in progress, expecting immediate results is foolish.

Hayward and Hood improved. We agree on that.
Because both are good enough for their position - 6'8" SF/SG - then one of them is superfluous. Trade the one that is perceived as more valuable (Hayward) who is also less of a good deal (Hayward).

The reason the talk of #1, #2, and #3 is annoying to you is because you're on the wrong side of it. We're talking about stars. #2s aren't stars.

"Trade Hayward because you are only allowed to have 1 good player at the position where depth is the most important in today's NBA"

The jazz have lots of "good" players. They need an elite player. An alpha. A #1. I'm trying to find a term that you will understand.

Cy has been killing killing dudes for the past 50 or so pages. Not sure how he hasn't pulled out all his hair dealing with all the trade Hayward for the third pick. Hell, I e tried to avoid this argument as its about the dumbest thing I've ever heard, like dealing with kids at a toy stor who don't apreciate the fabulous toys they have.

Jazz have depth. Problem is there isn't enough of a difference between the starters and the bench.

Next year's bench looks like this.

Neto. Mack. (Shooter/scorer)
Burks. (6th man and one of the top scorers before his injury off the bench, improving 3pt shot gets to the line at a high rate)
Ingles. (When he's on he's quite leathal, can run the offense high IQ floor spacer bench glue)
Lyles. (Potent offensive scorer and floor spacer and playmaker)
Whithy. (Defensively and as a rim protector as good as it gets for a backup center)

Then there's the fact that we have a lotto pick, and recent history suggests it will be a decent to good player, and if there was ever a year the Jazz were going to trade the pick for a vet its this draft.

Looking at the entire team. We have a high profile player at every starting position and two good players at almost every position. This is a very deal team top to bottom. I'm just a bit confused how this isn't one of the deapest teams in the NBA.

 

[Park Bites]

I really wanted paul zipser in the second.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Think about it, Cy.
You agree with THEE.

 

[spycam1]

My stab at a mock draft (lottery):

1. Philly - Ben Simmons
2. LA - Brandon Ingram
3. Boston - Dragan Bender
4. Phoenix - Marquese Chriss
5. Minnesota - Jamal Murray
6. NO - Kris Dunn
7. Denver - Buddy Hield
8. Sacramento - Jaylen Brown
9. Toronto - Jakob Poeltl
10. Milwaukee - Skal Labissiere
11. Orlando - Malachi Richardson
12. Utah - Dejounte Murray
13. Phoenix - Furkan Korkmaz
14. Chicago - Domantas Sabonis